Yes another newbie is struggling with the “what lathe do I get” question. Later it will be the "what mill do I get". But first things first - Lathe. I have been reading and reading on both this forum and many others, as well as looking at peoples personal websites. I have subscribed to MEW and read through the vast bulk of the back issues as well as reading many of the very good Workshop Series books. So now I am drowning in theory and great ideas. My primary driver is to learn to make things with metal. I’ve been/am into woodwork and while I don’t claim to be a cabinet maker I can get things done. I’m really keen to learn the art of metal work. At least to a proficient level where I can enjoy the process of creation and in seeing the result being both functional and well made. The areas that I’m looking to explore are: - Model steam engines - Model diesel engines - Glow plug model engines - Tools described in the likes of the Workshop Series books such as numbers #31, #34, #35 and #37 - A number of cool looking projects from MEW I’m not going to get into turning parts for Cars or motor bikes. I do have a half formed idea to make a go-kart from scratch [not the engine though ]. But that is very much in the future after much learning with a yet to purchase lathe and mill, I have the welder. I’m in NZ and while I see various Myford 7’s, the odd Boxford and once in a blue moon a Southbend appear second-hand, most look so rusted that I’m suspicious. The rest look used as hell and I have no knowledge on how to filter the good/recoverable ones from the rubbish. So I have resigned myself to getting new Chinese iron. I recognise that means I will in all probability have to strip the machine down (arguably a good learning exercise) and clean out all the free foundry material shipped with it then reassemble and re-grease/oil it. I have looked around the NZ market and the general options that are not beyond my size and price limits, and allowing dollars left for tooling, would appear to be (in no particular order):  Sieg SC4 http://www.sieg-machines.co.nz/lathes-bechtop/325-dieg-sc4510.html NZD 2,473  Optimum TU-2506V https://www.machineryhouse.co.nz/L689 NZD 2,392  Hafco AL-320G https://www.machineryhouse.co.nz/L141 NZD 3,174 NB: The AL-250G was discounted as it doesn’t do any imperial threads, only metric.  CQ6128 http://www.chevpac.co.nz/catalogue/lathes-small-9_72_582_1631/lathe-cq6128-250-x-750mm-L__120635?p=1 NZD 2,529 I’m hoping a few of the members from this part of the world will be able to give me some of their experiences and wisdom. Another factor in the above list is that some of the above units don’t come with many accessories. The Sieg and Optimum being the worst. Adding in those extras alone push many up to the Hafco's price. Are the sizes in this mix pretty reasonable? From what I have read I believe they are and should handle what I am looking to get into. Any particular brands/models that are generally better than others? Or is it just a matter of rolling the dice with the best bang for buck and holding the retailer to account for unreasonable issues? I confess to a slight inclination to the AL-320G. Mainly because I have seen some very impressive work by members of this forum using this model machine and its the biggest. Any ideas, experiences, advice gratefully received. Cheers, James.