european team build?

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  1. Aug 22, 2011 #1

    pcw

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    hi all. I see quite some european builders on here. wouldnt it be nice idea building a european team built up? shipping things to, and from the USA can get quite expensive. if we europeans could do a teambuild, it would get alot cheaper and easier to do cause there would be no need to recalculate drawings from, or to metric.
    just i idea. let us all know what you think of it, maybe we can work something out :)
    Pascal
     
  2. Aug 26, 2011 #2

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    Good idea in my book.

    Still setting up the new workshop but would be up for something when it is done. I'm open to any ideas really, obviously I am still of limited experience, but what a great way to learn and get involved with this great forum.

    Happy to work metric or imperial, though all of my tooling is metric so that's easier for me.

    Cheers Pascal
     
  3. Aug 26, 2011 #3

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    dont worry, im beginner too. had mechanical classes when i was in school. left school 21 years ago ;D only machine i got atm is a small lathe and old drillpress. i do have tons of files though :p and loads of patience.
    i aint aiming for complicated build. just something fun and easy to get a build going.
    ill be happy joining a team build on the forum, but shipping can get kinda expensive like mentioned before. was hoping on just small bit more reactions so we can work something out. would be fun way to start again in "machining" for me and maybe few others here on board.
    comon europeans, sign up so we can built some nice engines :)
    Pascal
     
  4. Aug 27, 2011 #4

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    Pascal and ChrisB

    I wish you lots pf luck at organizing a European team build. It would be nice if both of you could put your location either in your profile or in your tag line so that others such as myself might know where in the world you take up residence, If you need help with this I will be glad to help you.

    Cheers :)

    Don

     
  5. Aug 27, 2011 #5

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    + 1 It's helpful to know where folks are!

    Vic.
     
  6. Aug 27, 2011 #6

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    Guys the team build is not an quick easy process. Very possible but requires perseverance and patience. out of the 5 team builds started here #one and four were completed. #five I expect will be soon.
    I will assist if needed but think an European team captain appropriate.
    1)assemble a team
    2) select a plan set
    3) assign parts
    4)exchange snail mail addresses
    5) make part assigned
    6)mail parts to other team members
    7) assemble the engine(s)
    it is that easy well in theory, life is what happens when planning something else.
    Tin
     
  7. Aug 27, 2011 #7

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    What happens to the finished team build projects ???

    Rob.....
     
  8. Aug 27, 2011 #8

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    I have a "broken up" workshop at the moment but could give some serious thought, after all, I live in Europe ;)
     
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    there was talk of making a single engine and auction it off the proceeds going to a selected charity.

    TB 1 we made 12 engines one guy had to quit due to health(he still got an engine) someone had to pinch hit so one engine extra for charity (I need to assemble it and get it to auction)
    what has happened is each member builds multiple parts one for each team member and one or two extra. each member gets a full set of parts and is able to assemble an engine TB1 was 10 people on the team TB2 was five. Read over the TB posts for details.
    Even though making 5 or ten copies of a part is more work there is more incentive as each team member gets and engine.
    Tin
     
  10. Aug 27, 2011 #10

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    yeah i know it is quite some work involved, would be fun though. for now i only can make very simple and basic parts. i dont have possibilities at home to mill/turn complicated stuff. could ask friend who makes motorbike parts, but i know he has his machine time fully booked.
    im living in Netherlands btw. so anyone in europe, lets give it a try (show the USA members we can do it too ;) )
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  11. Sep 1, 2011 #11

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    More than happy to help out with arranging / organising. Workshop should be ready to start doing some real work next month, just waiting for some repairs on the lathe to be completed and the electrics to be finished.

    I should be able to cope with pretty much any size parts really and do have reasonable milling capabilities. I have two completed builds under my belt, EZ Engine and EJS Wobbler, both still need posting unfortunately.

    Don - I have a location in my profile in the "Location" box but it seems not to want to display, must be doing something wrong. For info though I am in Jersey in the Channel Islands. Edit - sorted it.
     
  12. Sep 1, 2011 #12

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    Pascal and ChrisB

    Thanks very much guys for adding your locations to your profiles. It makes it very easy for other members to tell at a glance where you are from. A karma point for each of you. :bow:

    Cheers :)

    Don

     
  13. Sep 3, 2011 #13

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    I'd like to be part of European team build. Do we have any ideas for what engine to build yet?

    Richard
     
  14. Sep 4, 2011 #14

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    no not realy yet. i am checking if there is enough interest for it. going in right direction slowly :)
    i am open for ideas for which engine to build :)
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    I've wondered about the Cygnet Royal which is a design by Edgar T Westbury for a 3 cylinder single acting radial with a single orbital valve. Nice engine, you can get the plans or kits from Hemingway
    http://www.hemingwaykits.com/acatalog/The_Cygnet_Royal___Edgar_T_Westbury.html#aCygnet.
    They use castings for the crankcase where it was originally designed as hex bar. I have the original model engineer articles and I think I have this engine fully drawn up in CAD. Away from home now so can't check but will in the next week or so when I get home.

    Richard

     
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    I like it.

    I don't remember any mistakes in the plans for the Cygnet Royal and I am pretty sure I put it on CAD. I might have just fixed them and not remembered or maybe the original Model Engineer plans I worked on are different to the ones currently available. In any case Stews offering is a beautiful piece of work.

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    Richard,

    I made the Cygnet from castings and original plans a while back, in fact the one shown on the Hemingways site is the actual one I built.

    http://www.hemingwaykits.com/acatalog/The_Cygnet_Royal___Edgar_T_Westbury.html

    The green one at the top. But that doesn't show the special fwds/rev valve that I made for it. The engine is only designed to run in one direction, but it will run in reverse by switching over the ports, but not quite as smooth or powerful as forwards. Picture at the bottom.

    There were problems around the crank and con rod areas.

    When made correctly they really are a very nice engine to run.


    John

    Cygnet.jpg
     
  20. Sep 7, 2011 #20

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    I'll have a good look at this when I get home. I am 10,000 miles from my computer and CAD files at present. Do you remember what the problem was?

    Your model looks very nice. I must build one of these either as a team build or by my self. It just looks so nice.

    Richard
     

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