Bazmak-A Model Horizontal Shaper

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  1. Mar 28, 2016 #1

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    From my V block thread I spent a week using the horizontal shaper and have always admired them even though they are obsolete and have limited use.
    Tubal Cain has done an interesting refurb on Utube, on one he was given but alas a little too large for me.This weeks ME mag starts an interesting post by Phillipp Bannik with a build start on a fully working benchtop model.A bit small But-
    The body or column is fabricated from 4 pieces of 10thk plt 65w x 98dp x 88h
    multiply x a factor of 1.5 and we could use a piece of thk wall RHS
    100mm x 150mm x 140mm high.Working as a base this would produce
    a possible nice working model.May make a start even though I only have a few details as yet.Redesign as we go and we will see.Hope to make a start soon
     
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  2. Apr 3, 2016 #2

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    Well I have made a start.Photos show progress but I don't have a lot of info at the moment.The article is in alternative mags which come out fortnightly
    so it will be a month befare I get any more info.I have a photo of the finished model and a small cad GA that I can scale off some dims,and the sizes of the body sideplts for the fasbricted unit.However I went with my first thoughts
    and used RHS and scaled up x a factor of 1.5. Time w[​IMG]ill tell[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    For the ram I need a section of steel 75mm x 50mm but not available
    so I had to buy 2 off 75 x 25 mm and bolt together.I made and fitted
    thin brass gibs to both side to enable brass on steel rather steel/steel
    Kept it to 2thou clearance as thin gibbs are not good with lots of play
    taken up with the gib screws.Strips are tabbed around the ends to help
    retain.All in all works really well. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    I made some more progress.I finished a little more detailing to the ram
    Then I made and fitted the Z axis feedscrew.The author had limited room
    so went for a worm/wheel.A little too complicated for me.I had more space
    so went for a simple knurled feednut,making space by recessing the o/dia
    into the main body.It works well so far,i simply used all thread for now
    but later will make a more accurate feedscrew.Once the main unit is all sorted
    then I will improve/finalise details.Working blind at the moment ,I am waiting for the next issue for more details.Dims have been scaled from the small scale GA.so leaving the more complicated details for later[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    I really like this so far. What are the approximate sizes when u will be finished
     
  6. Apr 11, 2016 #6

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    Next I made the clapper box.I am waiting for the 2nd issue of ME for more info and dims so I am working from the photo.Where I am unsure of dims I have left some items long and screws etc are temporary.ie I intend to make the tool
    clamping screw a SQ hd.Also the feedscrew looks small at M6 so I have allowed to increase to M8.Both feed screws will be made from s/s or brass and the thread cut with a die.All in all looking good so far.Next I think will be the horizontal feedscrew and table[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Really cool, thanks for posting.
     
  8. Apr 11, 2016 #8

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    I love this
    set up are plans available somewhere.
    or can you share them

    simply love it Thm:Thm:Thm:
     
  9. Apr 12, 2016 #9

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    The plans are in model engineer mag First post was in no 4525 and the next should be in 4527.I don't have much info at the moment so what I have made is from a photo and scaling from a small scale GA Will post more info as things become more clear
     
  10. Apr 19, 2016 #10

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    I made the lever drive and pivot shaft.Author shows fixed shaft wit brass bush
    to lever arm.I fitted 2 brass bushes to body and fixed arm to shaft
    Slotted top plate.Made the horizontal dovetail assembly.Author shows half dove tail to bottom and rebate/gib plt to top.I decided to rebate both top and bottom.Will oversail the CI table to form gib plt and 2 screws at the front for minor adjustment with brass angle gib at the bottom.No drawings all in my head at the moment.Photos tell the story.Will start building up [​IMG]the table next[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    I received issued 2 of Model Eng mag but nothing new as I am so far ahead
    All my design and dim changes have so far worked out well with no problems
    Next job was to fabricate the table.I started with a base of 50x8 angle x 70mm lg.Fabricated the top from cast iron with a lip to form the top tenon.A brass gib was made to form the bottom tenon,with nom 2 thou clearance and adjustment
    allowed for a couple of thou.All made and fitted,works and looks well so far
    Because I made the body in one piece I will now have to think carefully
    for access and assembly but cant see any major o[​IMG]bstacles. TBC[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Bazmak,
    I like your post but have a problem reading it. It displays the post contents sideways and not in a vertical sequence. Don't know why that is happening.

    Peter J.
     
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    Looks like my old Drummond shaper. Nice!

    Regards

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    Must be a problem at your end Peter.I don't think anyone else has the problem
    or they would have said.I don't know much about computers perhaps
    somebody else can comment
     
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    FWIW, I'm getting things fine. We seem to have experienced two problems recently. One lies at the feet of Admin whilst the other is poor old Gus being hacked and some of us becoming involved.

    We have a nice hobby that is becoming rather stressful.

    Norman
     
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    Tell me more about Gus getting hacked. I got two strange emails from him with attachments I was supposed to click on, but they looked suspicious so I deleted them.---Brian
     
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    My best option to get access for assy was thru the u,side so I machined out the base plt.I finished the lever arm.The author used a brass sliding block at the top but I decided to use a couple of roller brgs.Milled out the top plt and the ram.Made and fitted a pin 6mm dia captured with 2 E clips.Need to mill additional clearance to a couple of areas but apart from that it works well
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    I seemed to first to receive a strange e-mail supposed to be from Gus.
    Sensibly, I raised an alarm and found others receiving similar sort of stuff.

    What I guess has happened is that poor old Gus has tried to send something from some scruffy port on his travels and some toe rag has intercepted.
    It has happened to me and I now have a very strange e-mail address which is a mixture of Spanish and French patois:hDe:

    Meantime, might I ask Barry to forgive me for using his excellent post to help alert others?

    Carry on, Barry. Thanks

    Norman
     
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    Norman--Beware!!--If the virus changed your email address, it has very probably infected your computer and is now happily sending out more virus laden emails to everybody in your email address book.
     
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