Hit & Miss

[Mutley]

My uncle has just picked this up off a friend of his.

I mentioned this site to him, and he has asked to to post a question in the hope that someone may know the answer.

We would like to know the year of manufacture please.

Here are a few pics.

Thank you in advance, Jon

 

[chuck foster]

i can't answer your questions but i can direct you to this site http://www.smokstak.com/ if you ask here some one will be able to answer all your questions.

by the way that is a very nice engine

chuck

 

[b.lindsey]

Nice looking engine Jon and looks to be in pretty good shape. I can't help with the dating beyond the obvious...sometime during the reign of King George V but that doesn't help much i know. Thanks for sharing the pics even so.

Bill

 

[Mutley]

WOW that was quick....

Yes Patj, it is an advance/retard.

Thanks Chuck, i will have a look and ask the question.

My uncle has a few of these stationary engines, of various shapes and sizes, i will get some pictures when the weather warms up and he has them out running.

Thanks, Jon

 

[Jasonb]

Bamford will date your engine if you have the number

http://www.henrybamfordandsonsuttoxeterengland.co.uk/dating.htm

I have seen a model of a very similar Bamford but not quite the same one as yours in Stationary engine magazine.

J

 

[Mutley]

Thanks Jasonb.

Another one for Patj.

 

[Mutley]

Been on the forum suggested by Chuck.

They say it is a 1923, due to the magneto design.

Thanks for the help.

Jon

 

[jct842]

That is one nice engine. Your Uncle has a really good friend too. I would hate to guess the value and am sure I would have to mortgage my house to buy one like it. john

 

[Mutley]

The bloke he got it off has a 30' x 18' shed, full of them, all different shapes and sizes, most are up for sale, he also has a complete end of the shed, floor to ceiling full of spares, magnetos etc etc etc.

 

[swinz]

Thats a Bamford "tulip top" made by Bamfords farm machinery ltd of Utoxetter England. I have one which i believe to be made in approx 1924-25 and is slightly earlier than yours as it has a low tension ignition system fitted. I cant date it exactly as the plate with the engine number on it is missing.

These engines were late arriving on the market so will appear to be older than they actually are, i would estimate yours to be 1925-29.
Paul.

 

[Jasonb]

Not quite unique as I said earlier there was a model of a similar Bamford featured in Stationary Engihe Magazine, the guy mad his own patterns, had them cast and then built the engine.

Jason

 

[swinz]

The model in Stationary Engine Magazine if its the one I'm thinking of, didn't have caged valves, it had a detachable head with both valves in the head, the only thing that made it a tulip top was the shape of the water hopper. It was still a nice model and a credit to its builder who did all the pattern making and machining himself.
Try looking at the patent for some good drawings of the caged valves
http://v3.espacenet.com/publication...C=A&FT=D&date=19200506&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_gb
Paul

 

[mh121]

The model of this engine did not have caged valves as stated in other posts. I know the guy who designed it and also know of the whereabouts of at least four of his models. The model is more a lookalike than being a true scale model. He also made a few other designs aswell, I think I can remember an Amanco model he has.

Cheers,
MartinH

 

[Mutley]

Many thanks for the information Paul.

I will get some more pictures, do you need any measurments as well? if so, which? or would something in the picture for scale help?

Jon