As most of you already know my current lathe is the Chinese made Grizzly G4000. I've seen a few others here also have Grizzly and Harbor Freight machines. They're great once you get them set up properly! When you open that crate what your getting is basically a lathe kit. All the parts are there, but the assembly work needs a little attention. When I first got mine I cleaned all the cosmoline off everything, bolted it to the bench that I had built a week before and leveled it up. Chucked up a piece of 1018 cold roll stock and tried to take a cut. I've seen better finishes on the foil balls that bounce off the back of your head in the lunch room from time to time. :lol: So I set to the task of really checking it over. .002 spindle run out. :x The gibb adjustments were sloppy, to be polite. The 2 bolt compound clamp wasn't near rigid enough. Grizzly's tech support line was helpful in adjusting the spindle bearing preload. I made a new 4 bolt compound clamp based on the plans by Steve Bedair http://bedair.org/clamp/9x20clamp.html A rough spot on the ways was causing a taper. A fine stone took care of that. They DO take some tinkering to make them as good as they can be, but for the price they can't be beat!