keats plate and faceplate

[sniffipn]

Spring washers help with faceplate setups. Things are moveable, but stay put. I have even made my own 'belville' washers.

a useful tip - belleville washers - thanks Charles

 

[goldstar31]

The old fashioned method of adjusting some thing on a faceplate was to push and pulled in two directions in the same way as an independent 4 jaw chuck.
This was why I suggested the addition of 'guides' on a faceplate to control what could be called the x and y axis,
Sometimes the time and tested practices become regretfully forgotten.

 

[SteveT]

Depending on the size of the bore ? . Use a centre in the tailstock to push the Keats against the faceplate with the casting already fixed into the Keats .This should get you to within a couple of thou
If the bore is larger than the centre turn up a button or top hat bit of scrap the smaller dia to fit the bore . Centre drill the large dia for the centre
A bit rough but the way I was shown to quickly get a rough setting . Then clock it in
cheers

Thanks fcheslop,
That's very much the solution that seems easiest
Regards

 

[SteveT]

The old fashioned method of adjusting some thing on a faceplate was to push and pulled in two directions in the same way as an independent 4 jaw chuck.
This was why I suggested the addition of 'guides' on a faceplate to control what could be called the x and y axis,
Sometimes the time and tested practices become regretfully forgotten.

Your suggestion has just given me another idea. Perhaps some very strong magnets on the faceplate could be used to act as guides for positioning the keats angle plate

 

[goldstar31]

Your suggestion has just given me another idea. Perhaps some very strong magnets on the faceplate could be used to act as guides for positioning the keats angle plate

What a fuzzy idea It's attractive

 

[sniffipn]

inspired by photo of tooling in Valery's thread and Normans comment in that thread " ... perhaps made from welded bits if right angled mild steel. "

1. a fabricated Keats plate to make
2. and a small faceplate or two. Google took me to Harold Hall

I made a start on the faceplates.
cut some 3/4" bar to make the spigots

turned both ends down to diameter

on the harold hall drawing, the thread is M10.
the lathe has imperial (inch) thread pitches. thought about making it 3/8". remembered the john stevenson 34 tooth gear, that provides very close to metric pitch

 

[goldstar31]

I'm certainly intrigued. Makes a refreshing change so enjoy the challenge


Norman

 

[sniffipn]

I made a start on the faceplates.
cut some 3/4" bar to make the spigots
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turned both ends down to diameter

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on the harold hall drawing, the thread is M10.
the lathe has imperial (inch) thread pitches. thought about making it 3/8". remembered the john stevenson 34 tooth gear, that provides very close to metric pitch

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maybe one evening next week, i'll saw a couple of rounds off some bar, and make the faceplates.

probably one for a small keats plate, t-slotted as Norman suggested " ... addition of 'guides' to control what could be called the x and y axis."

photo of a faceplate seen on ebay

and the other like Valery's
David

 

[goldstar31]

Finally the 'Potts' circular vertical slide with a No2 MT bore and a Myford spindle 'nose ' arrived complete with its 40TPI Acme thread and a nine hole division plate. There were no Tee nuts and I fished out a bag full.
Clears throat-- they will not fit as they are METRIC! Bloody Metric
SH1T!

 

[sniffipn]

Finally the 'Potts' circular vertical slide with a No2 MT bore and a Myford spindle 'nose ' arrived complete with its 40TPI Acme thread and a nine hole division plate. There were no Tee nuts and I fished out a bag full.
Clears throat-- they will not fit as they are METRIC! Bloody Metric
SH1T!

to be filed to fit, Norman, or make new?

having looked at lathes.co.uk, i see it can be much more than the spindle sometimes seen for sale. is the column solid, or tube?

having a rest after lunch, and found a youtube video Potts Milling Spindle

 

[goldstar31]

Thank you for the link to the Potts Spindle but I gave one away like that. I kept the milling and the grinding spindles which are in Lathes co UK. However, the recent addition is more like the ones in 'Lathes. co.uk and there was a dividing head and a spindle with a No2 MT and Myford 'nose'
However this is ALL graduated and the column is in thous and there is a rod and tailstock.

The odd tee nuts can be altered but I have been involved in consecrations, constipations and being pissed on from a cold and dark North East sky. There is Covid-19 lurking about and until I get a proper jab, I am waiting with a equally disgraceful reprobate in trying to find if malt whisky is effective. WE just keep increasing the dosage. We are being sensible and want to save this uncaring world by recycling as many bottles as we can- by emptying the contents first.
Hic!