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jimmybondi

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Hi,

i just started a new project:

a two cylinder diagonal for a sidewheeler - free build with the plans of E.T. Westbury

some pictures say more than a long letter with lot of words.

but before i post the pics a question:

i need small valves to keep the water out of the cylinder when they are cold
(don't knew the english name)

they should be opened from a central point - like the valves in a locomotive.
any hints ?

ok - here the pics and some facts:
mostly used gun metal like cylinder, rods, steam chest,crosshead, eccentric strap, exp. link, ...
bearings are made of bronce ...


Regards
Frank

PS: i'm building 4 engines - not an 8 cyl :p

cylinder and rods details:
Zylinder.jpg


cylinders, eccentrics and connecting rod:
Teile.jpg


parts for one cylinder:
Teile1.jpg


the eccentric is build of gm (strap and head) and the connection is made of steel plate
more parts:
Teile2.jpg


parts of the eccentric:
Exzenter.jpg

 
For a "just start" I'd say you are well under way!

Looking great! Thm:

Rick
 
rake60 said:
For a "just start" I'd say you are well under way

Or, since its a boat; it could be under weigh ;)

Nice looking parts. Should be a nice build to watch.
 
jimmybondi said:
i need small valves to keep the water out of the cylinder when they are cold
(don't knew the english name)

they should be opened from a central point - like the valves in a locomotive.
any hints ?

Frank,

Cylinder drain cocks/valves. Usually cocks with 90deg from open to closed. You can fit one at each end or join both ends with a piece of pipe to one cock mounted on the stem of a "T" in the pipe. Rod linkage from each cylinder to your central point.

The other option is to use steam traps which operate automatically but size could be a problem, i.e. to get them small enough. Hopefully some others may know more than I, which would not be difficult. :-\

Best Regards
Bob
 
Hi,

@Bob:

i will see how to made the cocks.
maybe simple stainless steel ball and a spring, opened by a small shaft ...

not sure but i have enough time to think about - the prgress of the engines is not very fast ...

actual state:

- crankshafts ready
- a lot of small screws done
(hex screw 3 / 4 mm, metric thread M2 and M2,5)
- main frames drilled and milled

27_8_2009_2.jpg


Frank

PS: HiRes-picture:
http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/27_8_2009.jpg
 
Nice! ;D


I've seen draincocks that were a second "spool" or sliding valve under the cylinders, but with the grooves spaced so both ports opened at once.
 
Frank, Das ist shön !
Great job :)

Regards, Arnold
 
jimmybondi said:
a question:

i need small valves to keep the water out of the cylinder when they are cold
(don't knew the english name)

they should be opened from a central point - like the valves in a locomotive.
any hints ?


Found a little piece that gives dimensions for the drain as being 1/25 to 1/50 of the piston diameter varying as the pressure is higher or lower in that cylinder.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Fx...+cock#v=onepage&q=cylinder drain cock&f=false

Lots of books to give you ideas, @ www.books.google.com
Use the Advanced Search button and then select "Full View Only" to get to all the free viewable old books they have. Then, if you find one you like you can download it as a .pdf file.

I apologize if you already know all of this, :-[ Maybe it can help someone else as well.

Always with my foot in my mouth,
Kermit
 
Ja! Ganz schoen.

Umlaut! I need an umlaut. Ah...I'll steal it from Arnold.

Ja! Schön! Ganz schön!

Scale! I need scale! Stick a coin or ruler on some pics please.

That is really nice work. Are you going to put it in a boat?
 
Alt 148 = ö
Alt 129 = ü

where the number is typed on the ten key keypad while holding the Alternate key down. Alles klar?
 

Beautiful!! :bow:
 
Great job!!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:
Are you a loco builder?
Best regards
Paolo
 
Hi Paolo,

what's a "loco builder" ?

i build everything that interest me and don't exceed my capabilities :)

here are two pictures of one complete machine in actual build state:

31_8_2009_1_.jpg

31_8_2009_2_.jpg


the 3 batteries are AA-size and alined in the 3-coordinate-system to get a aspekt-free imagination of the dimensions

better resolution to view here:
http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/31_8_2009_1.jpg
http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/31_8_2009_2.jpg

now i made a feww days work-free - have to get free head and enjoy last summer-days of '09

Frank


EDIT: corrected batterie size
 
Hi steamers :)

now i finished the engine as it

there are some small options to to (feed pump, wheel, some links, ...) but the engine is completed as working one :)

i've build small drain cocks (on first picture left - what a terrible work for my grossly fingers :) ) and now i'm not sure where to fit the links ... i'll find a nice place during building :)

the aluminium wheel will be replaced by a pump eccenter when i build it.
But to test the engine i need a connection between both crankshafts ...

here the pics:

04_09_09_1_.jpg

04_09_09_2_.jpg

04_09_09_3_.jpg



or - better resolution (but to big for a forum post)

http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/04_09_09_1.jpg
http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/04_09_09_2.jpg
http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/04_09_09_3.jpg

Frank
 
Excellent work Frank. Congratulations. It looks flawless. Really Fabulous job.

Regards

Erdem

 
I like the looks of that one. Especially the choice of studs and bolts you made. They look like they belong on that engine. Beautiful job, what with so much detail involved.

Jealous of everyone elses talent,
Kermit :D
 
Frank,

Gobsmacked. :bow: :bow:

Best Regards
Bob
 
yesterday and today i finished the plunger feed pumps.

half day i has to invest to repair my mill: the shaft of the stepper (1/2" diameter) was brocken :-(

but today all went right - a little less speed as the new motor is a little bit less powered ...

here a the pumps:

Pumpen_.jpg


(HiRes: http://irc.global-radio.ch/JimmyBondi/Diagonal/Pumpen.jpg)

Greets Frank

BTW: yesterday i got the parts for the wheels (only one pair because of the price) - laser cutted stainless steel
I will weld them (TIG) next days and show it :)
 
Nice work!
I don't know what the various parts are...but how did you make the 'bottom' part? That is, the part that has the bottom flat?

(Psst. Scale.)
 

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