Drugs and machining

Try to do the less demanding parts such as finishing, deburring and such till a clear head prevails.

 

Hi Cogsy,
This is a difficult one, as also have back and neck issues and take my fair share of meds. Pain is one of those area's where i don't believe people understand what it is about unless they have suffered chronic pain and even then it affects people in different ways. So please don't take the below as me saying i understanding your condition or the functioning of your pain.

This is how i handle it -
(i) i constantly play with my timings and dosages (keep an accurate diary) to find sweet spots.
(ii) i find one of the big issues is fatigue from the pain, i don't feel guilty laying down in the arvo for an hour to rest or sleep too recharge if need be.
(iii) never push myself (to do machining) when tired or agitated
(iv) the fog of pain killers - more difficult to manage, i cut a dosage by half for one drugs as it reduced my ability to think straight.. which just means that my pain threshold is reduced... again all a balance. But in my case would rather my brain functions at 90% and my body at say 60%.

Now this is just common dog sense, but all the more important when taking meds... do one thing at a time and give it 100% of your attention; and my goldern rule ..... if i start to make a bunch of small mistakes ... its time to call it a day and do something that doesn't involve spinning bits at 10K rpm. Note when i say mistakes.... i mean something that you would normally do without error, not new learning experiences.

Good luck,
.Adrian

 

Al,

I am on about 30 different tablets a day, many duplicated during the day as they have to go with meals. They don't really bother me, just injecting oneself each day can become painful if you hit a hair follicle, drag it out and try somewhere else on my tummy.

But anyway, some of those do have side effects, but nothing to worry about as they are mainly for diabetes and getting my nerve endings more receptive to the stronger stuff.

The ones I do have to watch are my morphine patches to kill the pain of a long standing spinal injury, if I don't change them regularly (every 3 days). I get very bad withdrawal symptoms, now those can really affect you, and I suspect the longer you have your back problem, you might escalate your meds to that sort of system. I couldn't go in my shop when I had them first prescribed, and they had to be gradually raised until I was up to my full dose, which took just over a year. I was almost chewing bricks before the doc gave me the go ahead to just get in shop and take it steady.
The ones I really don't like taking are the topper uppers, which I suspect are the type you are on. High codeine and paracetamol base, if I take my full allowance of 8 per day, I get the symptoms you do, feeling drunk, dizziness, I even get numbness in my fingers, once that happens, I wouldn't go anywhere near my shop. With regards to my brain, that was messed up years ago, so I don't worry about that, just sit down and try to work things out.

If you are only just starting to have drug treatment, eventually your body should become accustomed to it and most, if not all the bad side effects will disappear, just enjoy the good effects while you can, I was high as a kite for nearly a year when started on my morphine.

John

 

My personal advice is to stay away from the machines. A serious injury is only "one stupid mistake" away...the first mistake of the session may be the only one...i.e no "warnings"
You can still play in the shop - just do those little things that need manual work (hack sawing, filing to shape, layout work, etc) or spend some time cleaning until things clear up.

Mike

 

Al,

I actually attend a pain clinic every couple of years, where they revue all medications and how your body is reacting to them, and then after a couple of weeks checking me over, they adjust my meds and techniques to reduce my pain.
It never gets it completely pain free, but bearable, and that is where the codeine/paracetamol comes in, I top up with those when really needed.

They actually gave me a very good tens machine, which doesn't work with everyone but it did wonders for me. Unfortunately, when my wife died, I had no-one to put the pads on for me as I couldn't reach the area they were needed. It was when I was using that they put me on an epilepsy drug, using one of it's side effects to allow the nerve endings to be more receptive. They left me with those after I couldn't use the tens unit as they said it will also work just as well with my morphine. As and when we get to live in the same house together, I will train my partner how to put the pads on so that I can start to use the tens unit again.
I rely on the pain clinic to keep me going as they are real specialists in it's control, using everything, including acupuncture if needed, and I now know that it isn't GP BS just to get you out of their surgery.

John

 

Hi John,
The epilepsy drug was the one i had to halve as it made me just too dopey...... well more than usual anway

Glad you get some relief from a tens machine its nice to have a non drug option to get a little relief.

Hi Cogsy - Agree with you thinking! At the end of the day we need to still enjoy life and work with within our limitations. Probably not the most politically correct answer but if the risk can be managed ..... keep on living! At the end of the day you can be killed by walking you doggy

Cheers,
.adrian

 

Yeah Adrian... It’s that Gabapentin aka Neurontin that makes me a walking zombie also. It’s a nasty state of mind. And bumping into the walls when on that stuff.
That said.... for those crossed wire nuerological pain issues... those epilepsy drugs like Neurontin do work well. That said... when I need the Neurontin I don’t operate the lathe much. I might piddle in the workshop, but it’s udu light duty and maybe a good time to clean the shop and put up the loose tools.

 

No one has mentioned CBD oil (Cannabis) as I used it after fracturing two vertebrae in my back. It doesn't have the side effects and it's not addictive. To get it for medical use I had to be registered by my GP. The CBD oil was shipped directly to my house due to extreme government controls. This oil has the THC removed so you will not get high and the CBD extract deals with chronic pain very effectively.

It's an option for your consideration.

 

Machining with Drugs?

I've never actually tried, but I'm not really sure how to hold those little capsules in the lathe.

...Ved.

 

I also take gabapentin 2700 mgs a day for neuropathic pain aka constant burning like hornets with flame throwers pain in my thighs. That along with 12 meds for congestive heart failure After a few months the dizziness subsides some but the draggy feeling doesn't. I'm now 60 and always wanted to build steam engines. So I've put together a 12x24 shed with air and a few old machines and I have a reason to get up and get moving every day. So don't let the meds stop you go slow and steady. What I used to do in a hour now takes 5 or 6 but it's not a race. My wife is a big help and loves steam things as much as me so it's a shared passion. I read the posts here every day have learned alot. The people here are so willing to help and answer questions without being Judgemental. It's like the old saying of all the things that I've lost in my life I miss my mind the most.