Hello,
I was searching for information on brazing and saw that acid and pickling baths were mentioned. Can some one give me tell me about both.
The acid was used as part of cleaning prior to brazing, and the pickle for post brazing clean up.
I attempted to use some brazing rod yesterday with less than spectacular results.
I posted this on the Atlas mill and shaper page. I am in the process of making a new eccentric lever for the mill. This is attempt 3. The previous attempts
were ruined because my piece of scrap brass had air pockets that I did not see until turning number 2.
At the moment, I am not sure of where number 3 is standing.
I cleaned all surfaces carefully, screwed the handle in and started brazing the
piece.
I put it on top of a piece of steel that I had on top of a single burner propane
camp stove. I preheated the piece, and then started attempting to apply the
brazing rod as I played my O/A torch on it. I finally got it to flow and put it
on the piece. When I thought that I had put enough on outside surface, I flipped
the piece and started on the inside face.
The heat immediately melted the thin wall of the 5/16Th" inch hole. I had to
rebuild it! As you can imagine, I was thinking some dark thoughts at that point.
I was successful in building it up and I brazed around the handle.
After turning off my torch, I decided to take a good look at the piece to see if
I needed to apply any more braze to it.
The piece slipped out of the vice where I had placed it and fell to the floor.
Since it was hot, I did not try to catch it. When I looked down, it was broken
in two pieces.
It apparently landed on the handle, and it broke just above where the transition
of 1/4"-20 TPI finished and the 5/16Th bottom of the tapered handle.
MORE DARK THOUGHTS.
The next handle wont be made of brass!!! Probably SS.
I put it into the drill press after it cooled a little and found center on the
broken stub, put a small end mill in the chuck and made a small flat spot that I
could drill into. I drilled and retapped the hole.
I then started cleaning the piece of the flux and reshaping it.
I need to make a long pilot for my 5/16Th" counterbore and will try to re cut the
hole. The stepped hole seems to be fine in the 3/16Th and 1/4 inch parts.
I then quite for the night, I had done enough damage for one day!
Thanks for listening,
Fred
I think that part of my problem was that the brazing rod was too thick, and required a lot of heat.
Any advice happily accepted! :-[,
Thanks,
Fred
I was searching for information on brazing and saw that acid and pickling baths were mentioned. Can some one give me tell me about both.
The acid was used as part of cleaning prior to brazing, and the pickle for post brazing clean up.
I attempted to use some brazing rod yesterday with less than spectacular results.
I posted this on the Atlas mill and shaper page. I am in the process of making a new eccentric lever for the mill. This is attempt 3. The previous attempts
were ruined because my piece of scrap brass had air pockets that I did not see until turning number 2.
At the moment, I am not sure of where number 3 is standing.
I cleaned all surfaces carefully, screwed the handle in and started brazing the
piece.
I put it on top of a piece of steel that I had on top of a single burner propane
camp stove. I preheated the piece, and then started attempting to apply the
brazing rod as I played my O/A torch on it. I finally got it to flow and put it
on the piece. When I thought that I had put enough on outside surface, I flipped
the piece and started on the inside face.
The heat immediately melted the thin wall of the 5/16Th" inch hole. I had to
rebuild it! As you can imagine, I was thinking some dark thoughts at that point.
I was successful in building it up and I brazed around the handle.
After turning off my torch, I decided to take a good look at the piece to see if
I needed to apply any more braze to it.
The piece slipped out of the vice where I had placed it and fell to the floor.
Since it was hot, I did not try to catch it. When I looked down, it was broken
in two pieces.
It apparently landed on the handle, and it broke just above where the transition
of 1/4"-20 TPI finished and the 5/16Th bottom of the tapered handle.
MORE DARK THOUGHTS.
The next handle wont be made of brass!!! Probably SS.
I put it into the drill press after it cooled a little and found center on the
broken stub, put a small end mill in the chuck and made a small flat spot that I
could drill into. I drilled and retapped the hole.
I then started cleaning the piece of the flux and reshaping it.
I need to make a long pilot for my 5/16Th" counterbore and will try to re cut the
hole. The stepped hole seems to be fine in the 3/16Th and 1/4 inch parts.
I then quite for the night, I had done enough damage for one day!
Thanks for listening,
Fred
I think that part of my problem was that the brazing rod was too thick, and required a lot of heat.
Any advice happily accepted! :-[,
Thanks,
Fred