N.A.M.E.S. 2013 And historic boiler and steam course

[PTsideshow]

Hot of the printer 2013 N.A.M.E.S. show flyer and the information on the Historic Boiler and steam engine operating course

If you are interested in taking the course, Please contact Jim at the email address below for mailing address and his phone.

 

[Brian Lawson]

Hey Glen,

Good for you posting this as soon as you could!! In fact, a bit of "magic" (hahaha) on your part..... how did you get this posted before the flyers were even available, and how on earth did you get a better "pix" of it here on this forum than the flyer itself ?!?!?!

Take care. See you at the show!!

Brian Lawson

 

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The corrected information for the steam course along with a PDF registration form is on the non profit show section of the forum. The N.A.M.E.S. group has been given a forum in the show section of the Smokstak.com forum I will be posting the current and correct in formation on there and only noting new posts on the other forums only. To save my self time copy and paste etc. on numerous forums. This will eliminate the increased chance of miss communication. North American Model Engineering Society show news and info forum

 

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There will be no operating boat pond at this years show. Some of the Directors have attended and have been having discussions with one of the local RC/boat clubs. Depending on how this years turn out from the club or clubs if some members of the other boat clubs come. The possibility of a operating boat pondFOR NON LIVE STEAM may come about for next year.

 

[stevehuckss396]

Thanks for the update Glen!! Can't wait for the show!!

 

[Dave Sohlstrom]

Glen

Why the ban on live steam boats on the pond?

Dave

 

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There is no city code either Building, Fire or other that will allow un-inspected boilers operated. Neither will any insurance carrier that I have every heard of. Even same a small boiler having a catastrophic failure, with the water expanding 1100 to 1300 times spreading scalding water and metal bits. It isn't up to the group putting it on to make the choice it is strictly what is allowed by the groups insurance carrier not to mention the arena's. And knowing some of the things that people have tried to run over the years. They wouldn't like the group giving their items inspections. In the state of Michigan the law is anything venue open to the public and charge a fee of admission. The boilers must be inspected! Totally a lot less head aches,and a lot less fussing over red tagging somebodies treasure. In the 24 years that the show has been on Most that were inside building there has been no live steam operations. Hope the above answers your question. The boat pond is something that they would like to bring back, but we need the help to set up and control it along with being able to answer peoples question properly. Ran out of time to build it, and get everything in place.

 

[Dave Sohlstrom]

OK I can see where that could be a problem. Shame though not being able to see the well built and maintained steam models running.

Dave

 

[Brian Lawson]

Hey Dave,

Most steam stuff will also operate on compressed air. There are air-lines supplied by NAMES at all the exhibitors tables of course. Maybe the "steam-boat" flotilla could use compressed air for the boats too, maybe come up with a way to use the CO2 cartridges so popular with air-guns etc? Today I saw an ad here in Canada (Princess Auto) for a package of 20 for $14.99. Not sure how easy it would be to get the pressure down to the nominal 15 to 50 PSI that would power most of the models.

Hope to see you at NAMES. Not sure I can do both shows so close together, which seems to be the comments from many others.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

ps...I too think that if Gary is so worried about weather, he should have picked a better time of year. April is not a guaranteed time either.

 

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Hope you are doing well Brain. So far about half or so of the vendors have sent the table fees in. Other than getting the bodies from the boat clubs for help in putting the pond up. I will try to get the exhibitors info scanned and up loaded. If anybody got the exhibitors info pack there have been some changes this year. I suggest you read all the info so there is no misunderstandings.

 

[kuhncw]

Hello Glen,

Thanks for the updates. I'm looking forward to the show. See you in April.

Regards,

Chuck Kuhn

 

[PTsideshow]

Glad to hear from ya.

 

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For the people thinking of attending the course, to let you know the course book has been redone so it is is all new and about 240 some pages. Filled with photo's drawings and lots of info on the equipment that it covers, high quality printing. There isn't any wood cutting include in the course. Registration and fee must be received by February 15th 2013.

 

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Here is the latest updates, and exhibitors info sheets for those that didn't get them. Again the biggest change will be that NO ONE will be allowed to set up before the scheduled day! Since last year to many people were there and the city took notice of the people set up and visiting on the floor during set up. They said that if it continues, they will have to start charging the rental fee for the arena. So please do not come and try to get in. This year you have to be registered before you unload either as a vendor or exhibitor. No button/no registration, you will be escorted form the arena. Also there will be a strict unload and move your vehicle at the loading dock. This is for both exhibitors and vendors. To address some emails that I have received. I do not know what vendors will be at others shows! I am only affiliated with N.A.M.E.S. as a volunteer I have been told that they have 38 already paid vendors booth/tables sold for the N.A.M.E.S. 2013 show. I would suggest that anybody interested in the fact if a vendor will be at any other shows, that they contact the vendor directly and ask. That way there will be no misunderstandings, or miscommunications or other! You will have it from the vendor's them self. Remember to ask for the discount at the hotels, motels for the show weekend. As some have said they will give one, after registration show them the button. There is still a couple seats open in this years Steam course, contact Jim Snider his info is under the post on the steam course.

And finally for those that like to plan ahead: Show dates for the next couple of years. 2014,April 26th & 27th 2015,April 19th & 20th 2016,April 23rd & 24TH Note: it is possible to move this show dates to April,16th and & 17th the true 3rd week end.

 

[RonGinger]

This year you have to be registered before you unload either as a vendor or exhibitor. No button/no registration, you will be escorted form the arena. Also there will be a strict unload and move your vehicle at the loading dock. This is for both exhibitors and vendors.

Do these guys sit around looking for ways to make it harder to exhibit at the show? So I am supposed to park in the lot, walk in, line up to register, then go back and get my car, wait at the loading area, then I can get in.

For 20 years we have stopped at the loading area, unloaded, I go park the car while the rest of my guys find a table. I park and come in, then when I see no line at the registration area I go over and signup. Now they want to force a line at both the registration area and the loading area and make me move my car twice to get in.

I understand not allowing anyone in before Friday morning. I get there early on Friday and it has been annoying to see half the exhibit space filled when I get there by local guys and friends of the committee. I have to drive just over 1,000 miles to get there, so I can't drop by on Thursday afternoon to grab a table. In past years I have arrived with at least 3 other guys, several years with a van and up to 8 guys, and one year I managed to charter a bus for about 35. This year I am coming alone. If they make it just a bit harder to be an exhibitor I won't be back. It costs me nearly $800 to attend, now they want to 'escort me to the door' if I try to unload before I pay their $10 registration.

 

[starnovice]

For 20 years we have stopped at the loading area, unloaded, I go park the car while the rest of my guys find a table. I park and come in, then when I see no line at the registration area I go over and signup. Now they want to force a line at both the registration area and the loading area and make me move my car twice to get in.

Having run the GEARS show for 9 years I can see your frustration. Fortunately we were not as big as NAMES so we could handle exhibitors the way you describe. The exhibitor coordinator would put name tags on the tables to show the exhibitors where to setup. Sometimes it did create a backup in the loading area because it seemed everybody wanted to setup at the same time. We helped to relieve that by making several carts available with volunteers to help haul the display items from the parking lot. The last couple of years we were really pressed for space so it was really tough when someone showed up who had not pre-registered. One year we had 3 show-ups we had to squeeze in (one drove all the way from Connecticut, IIRC). We did not mind it was good having them. The other exhibitors were always understanding and willing to work together to squeeze in another exhibitor.

Pat

 

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now they want to 'escort me to the door' if I try to unload before I pay their $10 registration.

That isn't the reason, the reason is the complaints from last year by exhibitors and vendors of other exhibitor and vendors leaving the cars and trucks in the unloading zone or a few that blocked the Fire house across the street turning area for the long trucks. It came from on high within the city. Hopefully the people will co operate and it can be done smoothly. Not being a director I can only post the info I am given. And the escorting to the door is referring to the same group of people that always comes in for free, then claims they lost their button.

 

[purpleknif]

"You can please all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time"


Abraham Lincoln.

 

[starnovice]

I believe the actual quote was "You can FOOL all of the people some of the time ..." But your paraphrase works too.

 

[purpleknif]

I believe the actual quote was "You can FOOL all of the people some of the time ..." But your paraphrase works too.

Yeah, it was FOOL. But... If you're from northern Ohio and you're old enough it was "You can fool yadayada, BUT YOU CAN'T Fool MOM !

By "Captain Penny". He had a daily kid's show in the 50's.