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Ok, I think it's time to wind this one up before I cause any more trouble.
Thank you for your time Gents.
Keith.
 
keith5700 said:
Ok, I think it's time to wind this one up before I cause any more trouble.
Thank you for your time Gents.
Keith.
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Keith, Your not causing any trouble, but when giving our opinion to a post we al have to be open minded.
I teach this stuff and use it everyday of the week. I don't assume I know it all, but I won't miis lead someone
because someone beleive he's wright, and proven wrong.I'm personalu not impress using a current drop to
control an ignition system. It could be better then what the factory is saying but ignition keep your engine alive.
I would be curious to know what company is this from.
I feel bad for Greg, but if beeing wrong is a good enought reason to leave the group........I don't think so
 
Luc, the company is www.power-spark.de. I've tried contacting them, they're a German company. I've asked if they can identify the sensor chip,
but I'm not expecting a reply.
Wish I'd not bought it now. Everything electonic I touch blows up!
 
keith5700 said:
Everything electonic I touch blows up!
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Then i feel less alone. I'm specialized in blowing up electronic stuff. It seems I'm attracted to short circuit stuff when I have a problem with it...
 
Jack, yes that's the full sensor. Unfortunately there's weeks/months delay to get that part at the moment, so repairing the one I've got is the only option I can do at the moment.
My 'full replacement sensor' comment you quoted from my earlier post meant that I'd like to locate an alternative which I can just wire in, rather than have to get into replacing the actual sensor chip, etc.
Cheers.
 
keith5700 said:
Jack, yes that's the full sensor. Unfortunately there's weeks/months delay to get that part at the moment, so repairing the one I've got is the only option I can do at the moment.
My 'full replacement sensor' comment you quoted from my earlier post meant that I'd like to locate an alternative which I can just wire in, rather than have to get into replacing the actual sensor chip, etc.
Cheers.
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Hi Keith, this part number will easely replace your part
Micronas HAL556sf (ake anyof these last letter will do)
http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/100484/MICRONAS/HAL566.html
it should be easy to find a substitute for this one
If this does not work. tell me how many wires are attache together at the ecu input and I will draw a circuit for it
I will pre assemble it here and run it before sending you the info. I already have one in mind that I have on almost
all my equipement as an RPM
cheers
 
Luc, sorry for appearing a bit dumb, but this range of sensors is a different shape and number of pins to my one.
Do you mean I can wire this sensor in place of mine with a bit of fiddling around, or is this range of sensor available
in sot23 arrangement.
Cheers.
 
Luc, or do you mean scrap my sensor and 2 x resistors altogether and use the Hal556?
 
Luc, I'm going to appear dumb again but, oh well...
Not knowing much about different chips, at the start I thought someone was going to reply with 'yes it's a 45EXX??, RS stock number 222 333.
Just solder a new chip in and everything's fine'
Obviously it isn't as easy as that, in this particular case anyway.

I had a look at the last link you sent but couldn't figure anything out from that I'm afraid. Those sensors have a 4 pin layout, SOT89B, and there is a list of different sorts, or names anyway. I don't know if they all do the same thing or what.
If any of these would do I still wouldn't know which pin to solder where.

In the meantime Powerspark in Germany unexpectedly came back to me and I have been corresponding with them for the past few days.
They have conceded it is a sensor fault and provided I send my sensor to them they will send me a replacement, so that's the plan at the moment.
At the start I was hoping for a quick fix to get me going, but now I'm resigned to waiting a week or two.

Thank you for trying to help.
Keith.
 
Hi Keith, sorry about this, I should have neen more accurate on my answer.
they have 4 pins cause pine number 2 is ground and it's at two place on the chip.
I could have swore :hDe: that I had put a chip number on the reply
Do you have two of those on your V8.
If I can make any sugestion next time try this companie, mutch simpler and way less cheaper http://ch-ignitions.com/

chers
 
Hi Luc, yes you did put a chip no. on your reply, but the link seemed to be for a different chip. The 556 and 566 may be the same tho', I don't know.

Last year I decided I wanted to have variable advance in the ignition, because, that's just what I'm like
But after spending 2 weeks over Xmas trying to get the stupid engine to even fire at all I now think it's probably not necessary.
For our purposes I think a fixed 25 degrees, or whatever, before tdc will do for all revs.

So now I wished I hadn't bought the thing. That 2nd link of yours would have done fine. I think I'll build a couple of those anyway, as a backup for when I blow this one up again. If I can get something similar in the UK.

The Powerspark I've got is for a twin cylinder engine. It fires when the magnet passes the sensor, and again 180 degrees after, which is quite clever
So I put 2 magnets in the flywheel, to get 4 sparks per rev. Each of the 2 spark outputs is sent to it's own dizzy.The only slight downside is that the RH dizzy has to supply 2 of the plugs on the LH bank, and vice versa, so the spark plug wires aren't as neat as they could be, but I couldn't see a neater way. Apart from using individual coil packs. Maybe something for the future.
Cheers.
 
keith5700 said:
Hi Luc, yes you did put a chip no. on your reply, but the link seemed to be for a different chip. The 556 and 566 may be the same tho', I don't know.

Last year I decided I wanted to have variable advance in the ignition, because, that's just what I'm like
But after spending 2 weeks over Xmas trying to get the stupid engine to even fire at all I now think it's probably not necessary.
For our purposes I think a fixed 25 degrees, or whatever, before tdc will do for all revs.

So now I wished I hadn't bought the thing. That 2nd link of yours would have done fine. I think I'll build a couple of those anyway, as a backup for when I blow this one up again. If I can get something similar in the UK.

The Powerspark I've got is for a twin cylinder engine. It fires when the magnet passes the sensor, and again 180 degrees after, which is quite clever
So I put 2 magnets in the flywheel, to get 4 sparks per rev. Each of the 2 spark outputs is sent to it's own dizzy.The only slight downside is that the RH dizzy has to supply 2 of the plugs on the LH bank, and vice versa, so the spark plug wires aren't as neat as they could be, but I couldn't see a neater way. Apart from using individual coil packs. Maybe something for the future.
Cheers.
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:confused: that's a nice idea it's like having a ditributorless ingnition?????
but will that module hold together at double the freqency.
If for noise reduction in there system the companie decide to use a
Hi-pass filter. your ignition mite be clipping at 4500 rpm or so.
I guess time will tell still anxious to see it running:)
 
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