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I would like to build a double acting internal combustion engine.

Any thoughts or ideas for how to go about doing this? I have no plans, kits, or other information on this subject. It is just something I would like to build. I have built a few steam and internal combustion engines and am looking to start something different.

Sean Skelonis
Ssmachine7
 
home shop machinist offered a complete set of plans for a snow gas engine, it is a double acting inline tandem engine.
the plans started in the january 2006 issue and ended in the may/june 2007 issue.
i have looked the plans over and have thought allot about building this engine but it is a huge undertaking, and i have way too many projects on the go as it is.

there is also a yahoo group that is dedicated to building the snow.

chuck
 
I know how to do it, but it will cost you 5 million dollars for the plans!! ;D ;D---Its not a big deal to make a double acting steam engine, because a steam engine doesn't require "internal combustion" in the cylinder to expand the steam. The steam is heated externally, and can actually be thought of as an "external combustion" engine. Current 4 cycle i.c. engines depend on the downstroke of the piston to draw a charge of air/fuel mixture into the cylinder, then an upstroke of the piston to compress the mixture before igniting it to create a power stroke. Two cycle engines do much the same thing, except that the downstroke of the piston pressurizes the air/fuel mixture in the crankcase, and thru a "slide valve" effect created by the piston skirt, this "pressurized charge" rushes into the cylinder to be ignited on every piston stroke. To do what you want to do, I think you can get around the fuel issue by using fuel injection into the cylinder at the correct time prior to igniting it. To create a charge of compressed air which would be injected into the cylinder at the critical time, you would need two "slave cylinders" with slide valve mechanisms. These "slave cylinders" would never have ignition occuring in them---they would only compress air, which would be injected into the "ignition cylinders" at the proper time in the cycle. For a more thorough explanation, and a complete set of plans, just send cash, cheque, or money order in the ammount of $5,000,000 and I will send them right away.---Brian
 
Thanks for the link. After reading up on it a little, I can say that it is one cool looking engine.

I also know it's something I wouldn't even attempt at this point in time.
 
Sean,

What a fascinating idea :eek:

I have been thinking, (now there's a worry ::)), about a double acting IC model since reading your post. I have also looked at the small amount of info on the snow engine.

This is what I have come up with so far. ;)

1. The engine would need to be a 2 stroke cross head engine, under piston firing is, I think, impossible with a trunk piston engine.

2. It would probably need to be well under square and have a long piston in relation to bore diameter.

3. To get away from very high and variable compression ratios it would need to be a glow plug or SI engine.

4. I am not sure if exhaust valves or double exhaust ports would be the way to go.

5. How to get the charge into each end of the cylinder? Some form of scavenge or supercharging?

6. How to control it?

Brian's already made a couple of suggestions with slave cylinders as superchargers.

Come on Guys, get your thinking caps on.

Best Regards
Bob

 
Could you use piston-cylinder arrangement like a double acting wobbler. Other than losing the volume of the piston rod in one end you could have valves in both ends
 
Ssmachine7 said:
I would like to build a double acting internal combustion engine.

Any thoughts or ideas for how to go about doing this? I have no plans, kits, or other information on this subject. It is just something I would like to build. I have built a few steam and internal combustion engines and am looking to start something different.

Sean Skelonis
Ssmachine7

The Mery Engine is a great double acting engine.
<a href="http://img531.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000448lx4.flv"><img src="http://img531.imageshack.us/img531/6744/p1000448lx4.flv.th.jpg"/></a>
It is out of production, but there should be some around.The back 1/2 of the cylinder has a packing gland to seal the cylinder around the rod.

I am currently making patterns for the American double acting engine.

 
Sean,
I you want to build a double acting gas engine, seriously consider Doug Kelley's "Snow" engine. It is a great project. It is an attractive looking engine that runs well at a relatively slow speed. The HSM drawings are excellent with only minor omissions that were published in subsequent issues. I have talked with builders that are building it in larger scales, but the engine as designed, is good sized weighing about 32 lbs. There are some good tips and help on the Yahoo Snowtandemengine group if you should need it. The YouTube video is of Doug's Snow engine running at Cabin Fever 2009.
Jeff

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