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Tin Falcon

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In the now-who-planing-next-year-christmas thread I was asked for more details on making pen and pencil sets in the home shop, so here is some info.

Pen turning is how I got started in model engineering. I was trained By the USAF as a machinist and welder. I knew I eventually wanted to build model engines.I also wanted to try making pen and pencil sets. For me it was a good move as the wholesale value of the P&P sets more than covered my initial investment in a mini lathe, a belt sander, arbor press, and a band saw. I purchased pen supplies and a few pieces of tooling just for pens.

First of all no I do not have photos of my set ups but I can take some if needed.
Pen turning is a popular hobby/business in and of itself and there is lots of info on the net.



Most suppliers will help you get started, buying there product of course.
Penn state offers a free video dvd:pennstate DVD

first you will need pen kits :

http://www.pennstateind.com/store/pen-kits.html


http://www.woodcraft.com/search2/search.aspx?query=pen%20kit

http://woodworking.rockler.com/search?w=pen%20kits

The selection is wide IMHO start simple. I use the american slimline cross style kits.

you will need blanks these can be purchased or made. the blank size size will depend on the kit(s) you choose. I cut mine on my band saw from wood or corian. the choice here is vast.many wood species. many colors of corian and similar solid surface material as well as resin etc etc. 3/4 x 3/4 x 2 1/2 will cover most applications. I cut the corian to 1/2 x 1/2 x 2-1/2 for the slim line.

Blanks need to be drilled a brad point bit is good for wood a parabolic bit from MSC is good for corian. the slim line tubes are 7mm so that is the size bit needed. other kits larger hole. this size is driven by the tube size of the pen kit. Drill long enough to fit the pen tube not all the way through. then cut to length. I suggest making or buying a drilling jig. and drilling on a drill press. . A 4 jaw on a lathe would work as well.

The next step is gluing the brass pen tube to the blank. gel CA or epoxy works here I tend towards the epoxy.
Clean, rough up the brass with scotch bright this will insure good bonding.
the excess glue will need to be cleaned from the tube and the ends of the blank cleaned and trimmed . a pen mill tool aka tube cleaner trimmer works well.(a purchased item) A belt sander can also be used to trim away excess blank material.

Once the the blank is secured to the tube the inside of the tube clean and the ends trim to size. The pair of blanks (you need two for a pen or pencil ) can be mounted on a mandrel. with bushings. the bushings are simply spacers . A mandrel and bushings are easy to make for a home machinist. or of course any pen supply company will sell you one for a price and this basic tool is often a part of a starter kit.
I made my own mandrel simply a piece of 1/4 in drill rod threaded on one end the end center drilled for a live center and the other end held in a chuck. I use my mini lathe to turn rather than a mini wood turning lathe.

the blanks are then turned down and polished on the lathe. if using wood that is finished on the lathe french polish works well here. make your own 1 part denatured alchohol,1 part shelac (I prefer amber) and 1 part linseed oil.

sand and then friction polish.

corian wet sand to 600 then auto polish, then plastic polish.
make sure the ends of your newly machines tubes are smooth to a lady's touch.
The pen (or pencil can now be assembled a simple press fit . there are tools for this . I use a small arbor press fitted with plastic to prevent damage to parts. follow kit instructions for how deep to press the pen inards too deep and you are stuck hard to get out. also gentle even pressure. cracks can be repaired but it takes time.

You will also likely need some sort of packaging to finish off the gift or product. again available from the pen kit supplier of your choice.


I will be glad to answer questions an elaborate if need. You should be able to do a P & P set in an hour or so but like anything else in the shop too many variable too give an exact answer. also you will likely work in batches. cut blanks,drill blanks, trim blanks, glue, let the glue dry, clean , then turn a few pieces or sets then assemble. Not something you do one piece start to finish then start another. Hope this helps .




Tin
 
Thanks for the information and links! I have often wondered and thought about turning a few pens in my spare time. I just ordered the DVD from Pennstate.
 
Ken,
Check out CaptEddie on YouTube he has several videos on wood turning and some of them are directed at making pens.

Pat
 
I just ordered the DVD from Pennstate too

Dave
 
I found and watched the capneddie 104 video. He brings up a lot of good points .
Mainly I agree, with some I have a different perspective because I am a machinist he is a woodworker.
1) KISS start with a slimline pen set.
2) no need to spend $ 40 for a drilling jig. I used a piece of plywood with a piece of hardwood fastened to it then clamp another piece of wood on either side of the blank adjustable and quick to load and unload.
3) I personalty like the pen mill tube cleaner and have mine on a handle.
4) As a machinist One can easily make a mandrel and bushings. we are not restrained to buying them as woodworkers are.
5) there are many ways to press a pen together without buying a special overpriced tool.I have a couple of harbor freight grip clamps that cost $ 1.99 each on sale.
I purchased a disassemble kit but IMHO a wast of time and money . Like capn eddie says be careful on assembly and you do not need one. and if you do mess up IMHO just simpler and faster to cut your losses and move on. basic kits are less than $2 each not worth the time or hastle to try to recover the kit.
At some point get a bag of pen tubes as some will be unusable along the line . they can be recovered but again IMHO not worth the time and hassle.
I will say he is likable fellow and the almost 20 min video moved along nicely and did not drag.
Tin
 
I agree with all of your points Tin. I use either my woodworking vise or my drill press to assemble. I like the drill press the best because it is closer to eye level.

BTW, there are people who turn pens on their metalworking lathes so you don't need to buy a new lathe to get started.

Pat
 
Some observations from a guy who made a few pens for Christmas gifts in the last couple of years.

Yes, I would start with a slimline pen for the first couple of pens, but do not be scared of the others. I really love the cigar pen, but realize there are quite a few different diameter brass tubes with the different pen types. Also commercial arbors come in two different sizes and the commercial bushings that match the outside diameter of the final shape only match one particular arbor. For those of us that have metal lathes, I found a pdf listing all of the different sizes of the collets and now make whatever bushings I need. That way they all fit the small arbor.
Here is the pdf. http://www.huntcountywoodturners.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=q6eLbErU5A8%3D&tabid=378

The next thing that I made was a tool rest that would mount on my qctp. It would stick out to the left of the qctp and I would finish with woodworking tools. I would rough the blanks round with a metal working tool bit. This saved a lot of chattering abuse of the arms that you get with hand tools.

Also, personal preferrence, the resin blanks are the easiest to make pretty and do not split out as much as the wood. To finish these I sand to 600 grit and polish with white compound and they look great.

FWIW, I just use a bench vise with aluminum jaws to assemble pens and have not messed one up yet.

Hope this is helpful information.

Anthony
 
Now we have the pen how do you put how it is from and to
I do not have a cnc or engraving machine

Dave
 
I've made a few pens for gifts over the years as well and all were well received. I recall a while back seeing a kit for turning a hobby knife, a DIY x-acto handle, as it were, along the same lines as pen kits. Unfortunately, I can't find anything like that now. Does anyone know if they are still available, and if so, where?

Thanks,

Thayer
 
Thanks for all that info. been wanting to do some pen turning and probably need to get some pens to the troops, that is a great idea, thanks again, will be looking to see if there are most post, thank, Lathe Nut (the 7X10) would be good for that.
 
I just finished turning my first pen (pic is below) and I thought I'd share my few insights.

I decided to buy the mandrel and bushings (a whole $13 and no extra shipping) and I'm glad I did. Although it's a basic thing that I could whip up myself now, I didn't realise that the bushes (spacers) also serve to give the right O.D. of the pen as well. I just turned my blank by eye to the same O.D. of the bushes and it was perfectly sized to the pen hardware. The rod is a little bent though, so I'll be making a new one soon.

I didn't use a drilling jig at all, just clamped it in the drill press and drilled away. It didn't seem difficult, but making a jig is my next job. I was slightly off square and my hole got dangerously close to the edge of the blank by the bottom. Any more and the blank would have been ruined.

The biggest thing I learnt was to completely finish the ends of the blank before turning it down. I left a small ridge and only found it after turning, so I used my tube cleaner/mill to square it. The wall thickness of the material is so thin that the force from hand milling ripped a chip out. I hid it under the clip but I'll not make that mistake again.

The last thing is that it's a remarkably enjoyable thing to do, considering it doesn't require that much effort, and people with no interest in machining are really impressed when you show them a pen you've made yourself. I'd recommend everyone has a go at it.

firstpen.jpg
 
Very nice Al. If you would like more info on pen turning check out http://www.penturners.org/. You may want to post pictures of your pen there. They also have some great articles about making pens.

Pat
 
Nice looking pen, great job, thanks for the info. just got the DVD and book from Pennstate, looking forward to watching it and getting started, might make the mandrel or do you think it is better to get one, thanks, lathe Nut
 
I have always wanted to have a pen turned from linen phenolic; I think it would have the look that a machinist, Model Maker and old engine guy would find appealing.

I need to talk to my brother the wood turner pen maker guy about that.

Dave
 
Another handy thing about metal working is that we usually have 1/4 and 3/8 inch HSS blanks to use for cutting tools. You can use these and grind your own wood turning tools also. A guy named Knud Oland is credited with developing the use of this method. You can take a 5/8" round rod, add a handle and hold the HSS in the end of it. Cheap and easy. I have made a number of specialized bits for pen and other wood projects. No need to spend a ton of money on wood turning chisels unless you intend to to go whole hog into the hobby.

Here is just one link. You can search on "Oland Tool" and find a bunch of examples out there.

http://aroundthewoods.com/oland.shtml

I have one of my projects on my desk. A pen made from a 50 cal machine gun casing. It is too big and bulky to carry, but then again nobody "accidentally" puts it in their pocket and walks away.
 
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might make the mandrel or do you think it is better to get one, thanks, lathe Nut
I made a mandrel just a piece of 1/4 drill rod threaded on one end a heavy washer and a nut for 7mm pens you just need some straight bushings reamed to .251 and a OD of IIRC .312. . so a piece of 1/4 drill rod and a piece of 5/16 and you are set.
Tin
 

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