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Discussion in 'The Break Room' started by dnalot, Nov 3, 2019.
I see the project of the month is now dead. Sad
There was not enough action when I tried to keep it going. So, it's just not seen right now. And you are the first person to notice and say something.
Got any ideas of how to updated it, change it or keep it going. I can bring it back in just moments.
Perhaps add a button to nominate a project that's listed under "finished projects". Its not a contest so every month put all the nomination's in a hat and draw a winner. Or maybe all the nominations from the the past three months, content here is thin at times.
Hey I am quite new to the group but spend nights and nights reading through the posts here in ore of what some of the guys on here can produce. They have skills I could only dream of having. I could imagine that having a project win project of the month would be quite an achievement and something I would be very proud of. It would be a shame to see this not continue but I suppose if the people aren’t participating or voting it must be hard.
@dnalot and @cooksservices Can you find me a project of the month? I'll give you until Saturday. If you can find one for me and let me know, I'll post it and get it going again.
In the original way, the mods found the Project to feature. So, I'm willing to amend how it goes.
Give me a link to the thread of the build.
I would like to nominate
Beautiful engine with a great sound
Mark, I agree. Great choice.
I think bring it back, but you can call it "Featured Project". This forum is not a "game", in which there are winners and losers. It may be a "game", but it is the game of science and technology .... and the patience, effort of the creator
And when a project is chosen, it's called a "New Featured Project".
I agree the 'Snoffy' is a great engine but I don't think it's POM material. The POM is supposed to be the project of the month so is intended to have a detailed build log so everyone can follow the project as it progresses from raw stock/castings to a finished item. It's less about how fantastic the final product is but how good the 'project' is. In my opinion, (and I believe the original intent of the POM from reading the old threads) simply posting a final product without the 'project' portion doesn't qualify for POM.
Having said all that, I'd like to see POM continue as well but it can be very difficult to come up with suitable suggestions some months.
"Featured Project" would be fine with me.
I enjoy detailed build logs, but I feel this requirement would severely limit the field of completed projects worthy of recognition.
I agree with Cogsy.....but, taking the trouble to take photos, write the log and then post it only to attract almost no comments can be a bit soul destroying. I'm afraid that this forum has a lot of lookers that for reasons unknown do not want to contribute to the general discussion that a project thrives on. If the POM withers, then in my opinion it's because we either don't care or are just too damn lazy. Cheers, Peter
Absolutely it limits the field of available projects, which is why they're so difficult to find and why they've dried up lately. But, if a post or two of a completed engine is enough to be POM then what is POM really achieving? If it is a requirement that there is a detailed build log then there is something to 'point' the viewers of the POM to read about/learn about. If there's nothing more substantial than what can be found in the POM announcement post then what is the point of even telling the members about it?
I don't think I've explained it well so here's a made-up scenario: Bill Bloggs posts a few pics and a video of his completed supercharged V8 model and we all (rightly) comment about how good a job he's done and how nice it runs, sounds and looks. Much kudos to him for his work and he's happy for the feedback. Then a few weeks later it's announced that his V8 has won POM and then...I guess we all say again how nice his engine is and anybody who missed his initial post but happens to see the POM can also comment on how nice it is. But with a detailed build thread, which is the actual content I think most of us are here for, anyone seeing the POM and interested in it as a project or just to see the work that went into it gets pointed to the detailed thread where they can potentially spend many hours reading along and learning (one of Terry Mayhugh's incredible threads as an example). Without that build thread we're basically handing out gold stars for a single nice post.
That's my two cents for what it's worth (probably less than you paid for it).
I do see the work required to be a POM, but I see a nice build without it being called a Featured Build or Project.
More comments? We do want to keep this science/art going. What more can we do?
Since this does not have the build thread referenced, it there a build thread? If not, this could be a Featured Build/Project.
What do you all think?
I would be fine with a Featured build. And I would be fine if someone, anyone would like to nominate something else. People need to start contributing.
I kinda identify with the above. I have a build languishing in the castings forum. I'm getting little feedback and a lot of the pictures have had no looks at them. For me it is hard to put these build posts together and for what?
That said the engine I'm building is running now and I just need to gather up enough chits to get the build post caught up. At times I've been known to utter the phrase " My ability to give a chit has hit zero and is still plummeting." I know that it's nice to read builds but please take the time to encourage and give help when you can.
I know for me I need your chits and I'm sure all others posting builds appreciate them also.
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I agree with you Larry, the feedback is nice to get. I'm guilty of not giving enough myself. Sometimes, especially if I've chipped in on a few question threads already, I figure I've posted enough and don't want to flood the forum with my posts. Maybe I should make sure I make at least one general comment on a build thread every couple of days.
For what it's worth, your build thread is a terrific example of a 'proper' build thread and the engine is coming along nicely. So far you've got over 3500 views on it and I from the pictures so far I'd be guessing it would potentially be in the running for a POM once it's finished...
Hi Administrator !
There is something I want to say:
I think POM is not only the forum's rating of a project, but it is the result of the members' dedication to creating that project. Those are great projects !! It might take a long time to find a POM project and I don't think there's any reason to lock it
And one more thing, you are an administrator of the forum, when you want to delete or lock a certain function of the forum, you should consult everyone before doing it, unless you think you can do anything whatever you like
Perhaps this is my biggest mistake since I joined the forum.
This might be a rambling post, but I've been in this situation many times: An example (exaggerated to make my point and to avoid too much identification.) - Once I belonged to a car club and we met and just parked our cars next to each other and wandered around looking and talking. If the public came, we answered questions. Our families came and burgers were cooked and it was a nice way to spend a sunny spring Sunday afternoon. Then someone suggested that awards be given and then there were three committees to write the rules and someone else suggested changing the venue to a private place and charging admission. Then the rules of participation became very stringent and a lot of people stayed home. Before long someone thought we should get a sponsor and get the sponsor to provide jackets and caps with our logo, which now had to be redesigned by a "Pro." You get the picture and I got out of there.
I do this as a hobby, as part of many of my interests, and I like to learn and improve. I believe that this is a hobby forum and I think we should avoid getting away from our roots.
I like the "Project of the Month." Call it that or call it "Featured Projects," or something else. I think most of us have reasons to identify a project as special or worth note in some way. I don't think this should be judged in any kind of way it should be more like a news item than an award. You could have more than one featured project, or do it quarterly, or do it twice a month, or whatever.
I do think the idea of letting the membership (those who are registered as members) nominate, suggest, or call attention to projects as worth highlighting. For simplicity's sake, there should be a period for nominating projects for notice with a cut-off date and time (gotta have a time, as we are worldwide.) Decide whether the list of nominations gets dumped after the current time, or keep a queue going for a longer period of time.
I think it is a good idea to encourage anyone nominating a project to provide a reason why they want to call attention to the project in question. I could find myself, for example, nominating a project that looks very rough because it was made by a first-timer with crude tools, or I could suggest featuring someone's project if they made tremendous improvement in skills over the length of the build.
I believe that encouraging a build log of some kind would be a good idea: that is part of the "project." It could, however, be as simple as a statement or statements of rationale for choosing the project and the methods of completion.
I like all kinds of mechanical objects, so I don't like the idea of restricting the project to an engine. The only limitation I can think of today is not being in favor of someone registering as a member today to post something just so it could be nominated today. The only other limitation I can think of is the posting of something just to publicise or sell a product on the open market.
That's it for now. More thought might change this.
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