I get death and excommunication PM & email threats every time I try to bring this subject up. I would just like to bring a few of my personal beliefs to this post, and every time I have said them, people get nasty. The first point I would like to raise is that a picture at the top means absolutely naff all to me without a full post to go with it. Just because someone produces a nice engine or bit of tooling doesn't mean it is good. All I can see is a pretty picture of an engine, OK it is nice, but where does the recognition for it come from? Can anyone point me in the direction of the post where this months winner shows how it was made, and no, not just 'this is what I did yesterday', but a heart and soul rendition of what had to be done to produce it. I am not saying it would be done, but I could just as easily pick a picture up somewhere, post it up and say 'look what I have made'. Just as an example (BTW, I don't know who's this is or where from) I know that the above would be stupid, but that is exactly how it comes across. Again, to me, I would prefer to see some total beginner showing his blood sweat and tears in a posting about how he built his crap running, all out of square, made out of bits and bobs wobbler, than some great looking engine that has taken years to complete, but shows nothing about the build in the post. If it don't come with a warts and all posting, just let it die a death, with a few people commenting how pretty it is. I honestly feel that a picture like the one above could actually put a lot of new people off starting to build model engines. "They must all be good if that is the sort of thing they are making, I will never be able to achieve being that good, so I just won't bother." We all know that isn't the way it goes, and with a little bit of good tutoring (by reading good build postings) many people come on in leaps and bounds, but they don't know that. So to my way of thinking, the above sorts of things should be done away with, and each month, give some recognition to new members of the 'total beginner' standard, where if they build an engine, and do a reasonable post to go with it, make their day and give them the recognition they really deserve, with no one person to be given more than one recognition, as by the time they have done one, they are 'experienced'. I am sure that this would bring a lot of the lurkers into the open, and give them the opportunity to start writing posts of their own, rather than just following along. I think we are all over the bad spelling and grammar problems by now, and as soon as the beginners recognise that they won't get penalised for it, more will start to join in. This is not a new idea, I personally have been trying to push this in a slightly different guise since the web site started a few years ago, but it was always poo-poo'd in favour of the 'elite' amongst us, who should be quite satisfied by now from the praise they already get from the membership. There needs to be no voting, no behind the scenes decisions, and shouldn't upset anyone, as we have all been in their situation. It could be judged on the overall reaction of the members during the post, The better the posting and descriptions the more reaction should be got. If it comes to a close call one month, stick up two pictures, or even more if needs be. Give recognition to beginners, who try the hardest, rather than the old hands, who building a great engine is second nature. As you can most probably guess, I am totally against elitism, fame seeking, and also in my case CNC. I am a true hands on believer, and at the first sight of it, to me the post is finished with as far as I am concerned. But that is just me. I keep getting told that it is just the normal progression of the site. But how much further before it becomes just like all the others? I am wondering how many threats I am going to get this time. 'Just out looking for a trash can to hide in' Bogs.