Making a D1 4 Chuck reciever for a rotary table.

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  1. Jul 18, 2009 #1

    deere_x475guy

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    I have this posted on another board but because I thought some of the members here might be interested in this project I decided to also post it here.

    My shop is a mess finally and I have swarf all over the mill and the lathe :D

    My goal is to turn this chuck of 5.25 x 2 of aluminum:

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    into something like this that will be mounted to my rotary table:

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    I have wanted to do this for a while now and all the postings that have been going on about rotary table adapters have spurred on my want to do one.

    Currently I am at this point.

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    Once I get everything sorted out and proper dimensions figured out I will post the complete build with the plans as best as I can come up with them. So far I have had a few minor screw ups but nothing I wasn't able to over come. I won't be back in the shop today anymore because SWMBO has other more pressing things for me to do :(

    Tomorrow however is fathers day and I have been notified that it is mine to do as I see fit. :beer:

    Cheers all and I will keep you posted as I make progress

    Bob

    Note edited to modify the title to reflect it is for the rotary table. ::)
     
  2. Jul 18, 2009 #2

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    Well I had a few hours in the shop today and got 1 pin fitted so I have a few more pics for everyone. I decided I would make a hex head and use a socket to tighten the pins.

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    Here is a shot of the pin inserted into the reciever and turned so that the chuck can be mounted
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    Here is a shot of the pin rotated 90 degrees.
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    Once I get all thee pins finished I will tighten my 5c chuck down and measure the run out. I am a little worried that the 90 degrees will not be enough to lock it and may have to reduce the dia of the pin where the interferance fit is.

    I will keep you all posted on my progress as I get time. The logs are now ready to stain but we have 3 days of rain coming so I may get a few hours over the next 3 evenings to work on it a bit more.
     
  3. Jul 18, 2009 #3

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    Tomorrow is a holiday here in the States and the company I work for gives this off to us. Since it fell on a weekend day they gave us today off. :D

    Since it is my birthday and we have a threat of rain I didn't do any staining on the cabin today....instead I made some great progress in the shop on the reciever.

    I was having some trouble getting things concentric. After bluing up the register I found that when I tightened up the receiver pins the chuck would be pulled slightly off center and would not let the chuck sit tightly on the face. :bang: Ok...so back to the mill, find center again on open up the holes about .010. PERFECT!!!!.... Before doing this I noticed that my 5C collet chuck was the only chuck that would fit fairly well in the holes. The rest would not drop down low enough because of binding. What I found after checking the bores for the pins on the lathe reciever that they were made for a very sloppy fit. Now I have just slightly over .001 TIR with it mounted in the 4 jaw and when I finally fitted it to the rotary table I have the same results with a .75 dia rod held in the 5C collet chuck. I am more than pleased with this as I was shooting for no more than .003.

    Here is the 5C collet chuck mounted to the reciever. It measured .001 + TIR here.
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    Here it is mounted on the rotary table with the same TIR.
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    Here are the other D1-4 chucks and face plate mounted on the reciever:

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    Obviously the height will be a problem for some, luckily I still have plenty of room left and now I can mount any size d1-4 chuck to the rotary table.

    I still need to make the detents for the pins so that it is easier to locate where the pins are set to remove the chuck, I have been kicking around the design of the pins quit a bit with circlip via skype and I will be cutting a grove all the way around the pins. Spot drill where I want the detent, then use a metal ball and spring with a grub screw to push the ball into the detent.

    Crap-O-Cad drawings to follow. :beer:
     
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  4. Jul 28, 2009 #4

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    Just seen this superb log of a build - ingenious and beautiful work. Excellent. Surprised no one else has commented. Never seen anything similar.
    A super build.
     
  5. Jul 28, 2009 #5

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    Klank, thanks....hours of R&D went into this and I am very happy with the results. I was wondering if I would even get a response...Must be a tough crowd to please here nowadays...never use to be this way.
     
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    Well thats a shame - new here myself, but your work is impressive.
    Very best wishes to you.

    Peter
     
  7. Jul 28, 2009 #7

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    Don't despair,Bob.I think the reason is that not that many home shop machines would have a d1-4 fitting.
    I find it interesting all the same.I want to build my own rotary table,so I'm always gathering ideas towards this.
    Thanks for showing your method,it's a nice adaptation for your particular problem.
    Kind regards.Hans.
     
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    Beautiful project Bob!

    Rick
     
  9. Jul 28, 2009 #9

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    I'm blown away by all the examples of creativity here, this build among them. I don't comment on many things (trying to keep the bull#%@ quotient low) because I don't know much of anything, but I still manage to stuff my size 12's in my mouth almost everyday :D
    Take this post for example :p


    Once again a post with no net gain in knowledge for anyone,
    Kermit
     
  10. Jul 28, 2009 #10

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    Wow thanks everyone, just when this evening I thought maybe this posting was a waist to time and space on the board.

    Bentprop you could be onto something there. I hadn't considered that part....:)

    Rick thanks,

    Kermit we all learn as we go, at least I did. 5 years ago I didn't know what a collet was and now I know that there are way to many kinds of them to even try to keep them all straight!!!.:_)
     
  11. Nov 20, 2010 #11

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    All,

    I have the plans I am giving out to the forum members. Just PM me and I will send you the set. All I ask is that you use them for personal use only.
     
  12. Nov 20, 2010 #12

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    Glad this made it back in the new posts. This is a great project. I have to add this to my to do list and I think it's going to move right to the top. :bow:

    Thanks for sharing,

    Kevin
     
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    D1-4 users UNITE! ;D Thanks so very much Bob for sharing we all of us.

    BC1
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    Great project and it is of great interest.

    Ray
     
  15. Nov 21, 2010 #15

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    Everyone your very welcome.

    Everyone that PM'd me for plans should now have them. Let me know if I missed anyone.
     
  16. Nov 22, 2010 #16

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    Hi deere_x275guy,

    I've only just stumbled across your build thread so am rather late to the party but I like what you have done. I do not have a rotary table or dividing head yet but have been thinking for a while of building one such that I can use my lathe face plate for the table part. So far I have acquired a 60 tooth change wheel for a simple indexer and a chunk of ali stock, your work here has given me some ideas as to how to go about replicating the lathe's D1 4 attachment. Next I'll need to graft that via a shaft and a couple of bearings to a lump of stock bolted to the mill table and I have the makings of a solution.

    Many thanks,
    Nick
     
  17. Nov 22, 2010 #17

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    Nick,
    Thank you, this adapter can be bolted directly to your mill table.
    Good luck with the rotary table build and I am looking forward to watching your build.
     
  18. Nov 22, 2010 #18

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    It has occurred to me (duh) that it might be useful if I also offer the plans up in metric....when I get home this evening I will see if Alibre will allow me to convert the measurements to metric...I think it does but I haven't tried it yet.

    For those of you that pm'd me today for plans I will get them out to you when I get home this evening.
     
  19. Nov 23, 2010 #19

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    Ok...Alibre will allow me to convert the units to metric...just let me know which version you need.
     
  20. Nov 23, 2010 #20

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    Hi deere_x475guy

    I got your plans, very nice, but just a question , how do you center the adapter onto the rotary table?

    Owen
     

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