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Lance

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Hello All,
My name is Lance, been lurking:hDe: here since :fan: and been waiting for the air to clear to introduce myself.
I'm 53 and have been into hit and miss engines since I was 12 or 13. I grew up in NE OHIO and ran the PA oilfields most of my teen years. I used to go to coolspring when it was a pole barn and a couple of sheds. I've had hit and miss engines all of my life up till a couple years ago, I sold the last one, getting to heavy for an old man with a bad back to move around.;)
Ive always wanted models, been a mechanic all of my life. A month ago the landlord at my shop started cleaning out a storage area for a new renter, and came dragging out an Enco 109-1005 mini lathe/mill on a forklift. $400.00 later he set it in my shop. After a lot of cleaning, rewiring and adjusting, it's working but has .004 play on the x axis and .006 play on the y axis. So I promptly ordered a 3 axis dro so I know where I'm at because I can trust the feed wheels. Kinda feel like an old edsel owner, can't find parts for this machine anywhere.:wall: Needs the brass/bronze feed bushings to get rid of the play, but I think I'll have to make them, and my machining skills/tooling are not there yet!
It came with all of the gears, wrenches, the original bits(they look like a metal eating dog gnawed on the cutting ends) a few countersinks for the mill and some india lathe bits that might be good for wood.:eek:
Found a rotary table with dividing plates at a good price, not that I need that right away, but could not pass up a good deal.
Also in the buildings where my shop is at, there is a weld/fab shop, so naturally I've been over scrounging some good scraps.:)
I must say most of the work I have seen on here is outstanding to say the least, just hope I can get my skills somewhere close to what I have seen.
I hope you all will will help a newbie, through the learning/spending curve. So I might as well start off with my first Question. The toolpost is a 4 way 1/2" bit. What kind of tool holder do I need for a parting tool?:confused:
Anyways thanks for having me here and I hope to learn a lot, and maybe contribute what i can in the way of hit and miss mechanical knowledge, restored more of them than I could keep track of.
Thanks again
Lance
 
First of all lance welcome to the forum.
I am not a big fan of combo machines but I think for $400 . you have a fine machine to start with.
If you need a manual Enco has them here: http://www.use-enco.com/Machinery/109-1015.pdf

The machine is a Chinzu Houshold machine tool works HQ400/A or HQ400/B

looks to be the same machine sold by Grizzly as the Grizzly 4015Z
I suggest you download the manual a lot more readable and in english rather than Chinglish. http://cdn0.grizzly.com/manuals/g4015z_m.pdf

It came with all of the gears, wrenches, the original bits(they look like a metal eating dog gnawed on the cutting ends) a few countersinks for the mill and some india lathe bits that might be good for wood.

Sounds like you need to learn to grind HSS bits. The india ones should be fine for brass and aluminum
http://littlemachineshop.com/instructions/GrindingToolBits.pdf

there is a weld/fab shop, so naturally I've been over scrounging some good scraps.
Stuctural steel is fairly machinable but you may not get great finishes on it. And may not be easy on the tooling.

Steel made for easy machining (12L14) is not weldable and steel made for easy welding is not the best to machine. Machinable yes easy no.

I hope you all will will help a newbie, through the learning/spending curve. So I might as well start off with my first Question. The toolpost is a 4 way 1/2" bit. What kind of tool holder do I need for a parting tool?

as far as a parting tool you have three choices.
1) The old fashioned way no special holder just grind up a 1/2 tool bit into a parting tool.
2)Buy a cut off tool holer like this one:
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from http://littlemachineshop.com/
3) buy an inexpensive quick change tool post holder and save yourself headache in the long run.
http://www.cdcotools.com/ item #29461 $78

Hope this helps.
Tin
 
Kinda feel like an old edsel owner, can't find parts for this machine anywhere.
Talk to grizzly tools they pride themselves in supporting there machines. yous probably came out of the same factory and same assembly line. Just a different name plate on it.
bushings should be easy. McMaster carr has a large selection probably cheaper than you can make one.
look for sleeve bearing or flanged sleeve bearing
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-sleeve-bearings/=ipsd4w

And do not be afraid to make one it is a basic student project for machinists . a great first project.
Tin
 
Welcome and "howdy" to you too Lance, hope you get all your equipment up and running soon!
Stew.
 
Thanks all and Thank you very much tin falcon for the link to the Grizzly Docs. MUCH better than the enco doc!!
Went to the flea market today and picked up a set of end mills (new) and some used lathe bits off a gentleman that is a machinist by trade and runs a booth on the weekends. Got some leads from him where a may be able to find a 4 jaw chuck.
The fab shop next to me does a lot of boats and aluminum welding so I have been getting his aluminum scraps. He's very knowlegable about metals and worked in an oilfielld machine shop for a couple of years, so he's helping me out on this learning curve also.
Also the link to mini machinist was a great help also, I've been looking at Aloris toolposts but was unshure of what size to buy.
Thanks again for all of the help!!!!!!
 
Hi Lance, welcome to the forum. I live in Round Tx... we're kind of in the same neck of the woods!

Chuck
 
Hey Lance. Welcome to HMEM from Central Texas.

Ray
 
Thanks Ray and Chuck.
Tin Falcon you have been a wealth of informtion Thank you Very much!!!
The dro came in yesterday and I managed to get the x axis mounted and working today. The y axis is going to be a bit more of a project, gonna have to make some brackets to get it to fit correctly, good project for tomorrow if the shop stays slow.
 
Howdy from Houston as well...

Please check out http://www.homemetalshopclub.org/. We meet 2nd saturday every month. The old-timers that attend have forgotten more than I'll ever know and there's a beginners topic at the end of every meeting.
 
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