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MODERATORS? I hope that you will realise that this poster is again attempting to denigrate another poster and morre importantly, one who is extremely ahed and infirm but still trying to take a responsible place in caring for others at all of 90+.
The news broke this morning which has absolutely nothing whatsoever with 'whatever he is peddling'.
The vaccines are working and first results are suggesting that this 'yet another plague' might be minimised or eradicated. It is thanks to those who working tirelessly in the affairs of man for the rest of us to give our heartfelt thanks.

And so to our feet of clay-- or mine:), I'm a major shareholder in one of these firms who sees to be winnng and again, another one which seems to be on the right track.
Take. heed, I'm NOT anyone's fool. The resulting dividends from my prudence is rather pleasant. I can choose their destiny .
The words despite their age ring clearly for those who will listen. Faith, Hope and Charity and we are reminded that the greatest is Charity.

Happily, I am far from being alome in this and WE. simply enjoy doing so with scant little interest in SELF.
 
Earlier remarks- deleted.--------------- Thank You

I suffer from macular degeneration so why waste what little on what you seemed to think important.
 
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Well, I was trying to sort out the dimensions of the Coles/Ray Corliss throttle section when I realized it was nowhere to be found in my drawings! Disgusted and disappointed, I had to go to the original dwgs which AW Ray made back in '46. Besides the age of these drawings, that is, they are very faded, there are missing dims, too many over dimmed and difficult to decipher.
Also, I am using Autodesk Architectural for mechanical drawings which is clumsy to say the least. I have an old copy of Inventor which is great, however, it doesn't work properly on the newest version of microsux. I have an older computer that I probably will have to drag out to use Inventor. Inventor is far superior to AutoCADs Architectural program (that is, for mechanical usage.) With Inventor, all drawings a 3D from the very start. Making 2D printable drawings is extremely easy and making cross sections is extremely easy. I'm thimpfking I'll try to find that SolidWorks program that someone said we can get for 20$. I thimpfk that is very nice of SolidWorks to do that for retired folks, students and handi-capped.
 
I am using a 12 year old computer... seems to have plenty of computing power for the web and regular documents, etc. But when I was working, we needed HUGE computers for the CAD stuff - just to open and manipulate drawings - compared to the regular "office" sized computers. Currently I have 680 Gb computer memory of which around 100 Gb used. (My brain is tiny by comparison!). I can't find processor speed or don't know how.... or other parameters that will need to be checked. (My chalk and slate is still working in the Garage, without any battery charging. The slide rules all work well, my vernier callipers are still in calibration and my micrometers are battery free... picture of chalk and slate in conjunction with a steel rule attached! - it is in weekly use.). My only powered design tool is a calculator - from the 1980s. I've not worn it out yet and only changed the solar rechargable battery once... I never learned to do my design calculations on computers, as they were only huge company mainframe things when I was a design engineer - programmed by specialist programmers who typed punched cards with their programmes! Very "1970s film" stuff with huge cabinets with whirling spools of tape and green text computer screens.
What size computer are you on Richard? - is it big enough for Solid Works? - I should get something so I can import drawing plans etc. For my own stuff I happily use a tee-square and board with pencil, pen & paper. Roll-on the revolution? And when I have done any calculations I know what they mean - not just a number produced by a computer... from any rubbish or random numbers that are input...
NOW: Posty has just called: I received today a copy of "Experimental Flash Steam" by Benson and Rayman. - To quote Richard (above). I have not opened it yet - must go "shopping" with the boss. So I'll let you know what's what when I have read it.
Cheers boys!
Ken
 

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I am using a 12 year old computer... seems to have plenty of computing power for the web and regular documents, etc. But when I was working, we needed HUGE computers for the CAD stuff - just to open and manipulate drawings - compared to the regular "office" sized computers. Currently I have 680 Gb computer memory of which around 100 Gb used. (My brain is tiny by comparison!). I can't find processor speed or don't know how.... or other parameters that will need to be checked. (My chalk and slate is still working in the Garage, without any battery charging. The slide rules all work well, my vernier callipers are still in calibration and my micrometers are battery free... picture of chalk and slate in conjunction with a steel rule attached! - it is in weekly use.). My only powered design tool is a calculator - from the 1980s. I've not worn it out yet and only changed the solar rechargable battery once... I never learned to do my design calculations on computers, as they were only huge company mainframe things when I was a design engineer - programmed by specialist programmers who typed punched cards with their programmes! Very "1970s film" stuff with huge cabinets with whirling spools of tape and green text computer screens.
What size computer are you on Richard? - is it big enough for Solid Works? - I should get something so I can import drawing plans etc. For my own stuff I happily use a tee-square and board with pencil, pen & paper. Roll-on the revolution? And when I have done any calculations I know what they mean - not just a number produced by a computer... from any rubbish or random numbers that are input...
NOW: Posty has just called: I received today a copy of "Experimental Flash Steam" by Benson and Rayman. - To quote Richard (above). I have not opened it yet - must go "shopping" with the boss. So I'll let you know what's what when I have read it.
Cheers boys!
Ken
I've got a couple computers much older than that which still work, but I have to protect them from my children. If the computers get in the way, the kidz will chuck them (not in the lathe chuch either). The tower computer is in a difficult to get at place but I only use it if I run into a problem like the "Inventor" problem. I don't know what it's computing parameters are without looking, and that is difficult to do.

I have a laptop that the little wifey bought me when my last one went tits up in November of last year (it must have been that infernal election that did it in) which I am using this very moment. It's a Lenovo as I insist that HP and Dell are krap. I thimk the best one I ever owned was a Samsung but for some ridiculous reason Samsungs are impossible to find here now--maybe because they are TOO good and the corporations don't want any competition around that lasts more than 18 months--planned obsolescence. Anyway, this is 2.11 GHz with 8GB memory. The one thing I do not like about this is the small SSD hard drive of only 237GB. I have to have external hard drive hookt up.

Yes this is powerful enough to run SolidWorks and some other powerful programs all at the same time. I started out computer programming with punch cards--what a tough way to do programming. My first computer was a Radio Shack TRS80 which had a very small memory, ran at a phenomenal speed of 4 MHz! The permanent memory was a tape recorder. I bought two disk drives eventually which held 40 KBytes of memory each and cost 500$ each. In the end the system cost 5000$ which in today's $$ would be somewhere between 20,000 and 40,000$. I sent the thing to the trash about 20 years ago. NOW it is a collectors item LOL. Actually the best computer I ever owned and still own it 30 years later is (and it still works) the Amiga 500. It was better constructed at the time than any other computer and it ran circles around it's competition for about 8 years. They went out of business because of bad marketing strategy.

If you enjoy drawing by pencil, that in itself is reason to do it. But it is not really productive if you are in business or a hurry. I can push a pencil and I DO enjoy it but I have too many irons sitting next to the fire because the fire is full of irons which I have to do something with so I never use the pencil method. Then of course the storage problem is much reduced with computers--no need for storage cabinet and the ability to find your files is much easier (be sure to have your files in at least TWO media storage drives--they still crash sometimes). Using 3D drafting, oddly, is actually EASIER than 2D! I would not have believed it lest I had danced on the keyboard with my own fingertips doing it. And one of the more difficult dwgs to do is the cross-section which you really have to have your ducks in a row on a ball with a thimking cap and a hot cup o'java with half & half and honey. But with 3D, a cross-section is just as easy as the original 3D dwg. Also, to make 2Ds for printing is extremely easy. So if you want some speed, get a 3D program. If you are in no hurry, I have two drafting tables for sale--one is a s small one about 3'X4' on a stand with an arm, and the other is a huge one, very heavy with an arm bout 4'X 8'. Which one do you want?(LOL)
 
Hi Richard, thanks for the offer but I don't need the boards. I have mine, my Father's and Grandfather's. Different sizes. But on computers, my Millenium Compaq has given up the ghost. My 2004 HP expired a few months ago. FAN not cooling! But my 2008 HP is a goodun! Just don't know how long before the final Flash, bang, black! But data is backed up on a hard-drive. Maybe time for something new?
I'll have a look at autoCad...
Ken
 
Hi Richard, thanks for the offer but I don't need the boards. I have mine, my Father's and Grandfather's. Different sizes. But on computers, my Millenium Compaq has given up the ghost. My 2004 HP expired a few months ago. FAN not cooling! But my 2008 HP is a goodun! Just don't know how long before the final Flash, bang, black! But data is backed up on a hard-drive. Maybe time for something new?
I'll have a look at autoCad...
Ken
HPs, in my not so humble opinion, is one of the worst, far over-rated. I have had many of them and they are CERTAINLY engineered to last 18months + 1 day. I neveer want another one--EVER! My suggestion is Acer, Lenovo or my favorite, Samsung. They have moved from rotating hard drives to SSD--Solid State Drives, which are basically just thumb drives. What I don't like is they are very stingy with the SSD. My Lenovo has 235GB of SSD but I want (and I thimpfks I needs) 1 TB! The fact that they now use SSD means the machine keeps cooler and makes less noise. Have you tried Linux operating system? It's cool in ways microsux can't even thimpfk of. If you want to try Linux you can do dual-OS which means you have your choice of operating systems at boot up. Linux or Sux. IN FACT! Linux is so kool that you can boot up in Linux and RUN sux as a program! Har har har. It's almost impossible to get a virus with Linux, BTW. The prob with Linux is that there are far fewer programs for it because the commercial world operates on un-gog-magogly profits. Or wait, I guess that shlould be gog-magogly profits. If you have not tried Linux, I recommend you get a friend who uses it to help you install it. It might be a bit intimidating (and possibly disasterous) for a 1st timer. You needs a bit more hard drive space for it but not much. You might see that the bloated msux system uses HUGE amounts of space but the Linux OS uses hardly any, is NOT bloated and works BETTER than Sux. The file system of Linux is very compact. Using Linux you can import ANY file system ever used to date. I have SUSE 9.2 which is very out of date, but I just could HUG it. I can have up to 16 desk tops opened at once. In each desktop, I can have as many programs opened as a sux machine can have. I can say a LOT more for the praises of LInux but I thimk there is not enough space to write a book. Anyway, you could probably get a book like Linux for Retards or something like that.
 
Hi Richard - I have just looked at the label - it says Dell! SO not HP after all. I have a LINUX stick I bought to plug-in to my 2004 Dell, but it was actually just 1 generation too old for the Linux OP system to take over. I do not have any problems with the current 2008 Dell, but would I see some benefit from using the Linux system on that one? - I just don't know what difference I will see to appreciate applying it... Will my McAffee security throw a fit? Ignore it? Or just get on with life and continue to work? - Not knowing - and it currently isn't broken - I have no motivation to change - except your praise for it. Will any of my current files translate and work in Linux? - e.g. my office package (I save as docs etc. so they can translate and send to systems like this website) , or family tree GED files? My biggest bugbear in life is having to change some systems when Miseryshaft change generation and all my old stuff (including printers, scanners and purchased software like "treeware") fails with the "new" windows - with bars on and shutters down! I have old cartridges for my perfectly good printer that I can't use! - What's the sense for anyone to support that sort of system! I suppose it it is like changing from selling lathe tools to changing system so people buy a new lathe every 5 years! - And I'm too old to want this "new world" of change. (I'll be dead before they ban IC engines - I hope!). George Orwell was more right then even he expected. Big Brother rules! - especially with COVID around. (Though I believe in Quarantine for controlling the spread of disease - unlike most who seem to find it doesn't apply the them!).
Nuff said.
K2
 
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I have SUSE 9.2 which is very out of date, but I just could HUG it. I can have up to 16 desk tops opened at once. In each desktop, I can have as many programs opened as a sux machine can have. I can say a LOT more for the praises of LInux but I thimk there is not enough space to write a book. Anyway, you could probably get a book like Linux for Retards or something like that.

16 desktops -- - - - I've got 20 and still don't have enough room.
Trying to have a desktop dedicated to each kind of function.
One major issue - - - - CAD - - - they now call modelling CAD but I need to be able to do something where I can also put all the technical details into the 'drawing' and FreeCAD just doesn't believe in being practical. So far I've been using LibreCAD using mathematics to draw from point to point. FreeCAD works but I don't just model stuff I make it and that mostly doesn't seem to be what the 'coders' are doing.
These problems might just be me but this software seems to be designed to be a pain to use and then there is only ONE way to do most things. (Like specifying things only counter clock-wise IIRC.)
Oh well I'll stop - - - - not really contributing anything useful re: CAD.
Besides CAD where M$ has the market sewn up real tight there isn't much that you can't do in *nix land.
I've been running various iterations for somewhat over 20 years.
HTH
 
Hi Richard - I have just looked at the label - it says Dell! SO not HP after all. I have a LINUX stick I bought to plug-in to my 2004 Dell, but it was actually just 1 generation too old for the Linux OP system to take over. I do not have any problems with the current 2008 Dell, but would I see some benefit from using the Linux system on that one? - I just don't know what difference I will see to appreciate applying it... Will my McAffee security throw a fit? Ignore it? Or just get on with life and continue to work? - Not knowing - and it currently isn't broken - I have no motivation to change - except your praise for it. Will any of my current files translate and work in Linux? - e.g. my office package (I save as docs etc. so they can translate and send to systems like this website) , or family tree GED files? My biggest bugbear in life is having to change some systems when Miseryshaft change generation and all my old stuff (including printers, scanners and purchased software like "treeware") fails with the "new" windows - with bars on and shutters down! I have old cartridges for my perfectly good printer that I can't use! - What's the sense for anyone to support that sort of system! I suppose it it is like changing from selling lathe tools to changing system so people buy a new lathe every 5 years! - And I'm too old to want this "new world" of change. (I'll be dead before they ban IC engines - I hope!). George Orwell was more right then even he expected. Big Brother rules! - especially with COVID around. (Though I believe in Quarantine for controlling the spread of disease - unlike most who seem to find it doesn't apply the them!).
Nuff said.
K2
On linux I can read your word97 files, edit them, and save them - - - - all in word97 (or whater year that was!) format.
Can't do that with the M$ product!
If you write very complicated spreadsheets and use lots of VB then not everything will go well for you in LibreOffice Calc but I"m sure that you would be able to add whatever would be needed to make such do what you want. I'm not much into pretty pictures so my spreadsheets don't usually 'need' any programming. There are also some interesting tools there that are not available in the M$ world (like Ledger for your record keeping - - - but maybe there is a windows runnable version - - - - just haven't checked!).
 
Ken2
I have a Dell laptop which seems to have a dead battery. The year on the Windows7 Professional is 2012.

I'm in lockdown at just North of Newcastle upon Tyne.
Is it any use to you?

Regards

Norman
 
Thanks for the offer Norman,
But no thanks, I only need to do something if this old beauty falls off the table... I'm going to have a look at CAD... just because I have a bit of time while it is too cold in the Garage - or garden.... And I'm hoping it's more fun than sitting and whatever in front of the TV....
Or maybe it is just "a different seat and different programme"? You are allowed to groan at that pun...
I'll go and do some silver soldering - 3 blow-lamp job - That's warm!
Ken
 
Hi Richard - I have just looked at the label - it says Dell! SO not HP after all. I have a LINUX stick I bought to plug-in to my 2004 Dell, but it was actually just 1 generation too old for the Linux OP system to take over. I do not have any problems with the current 2008 Dell, but would I see some benefit from using the Linux system on that one? - I just don't know what difference I will see to appreciate applying it... Will my McAffee security throw a fit? Ignore it? Or just get on with life and continue to work? - Not knowing - and it currently isn't broken - I have no motivation to change - except your praise for it. Will any of my current files translate and work in Linux? - e.g. my office package (I save as docs etc. so they can translate and send to systems like this website) , or family tree GED files? My biggest bugbear in life is having to change some systems when Miseryshaft change generation and all my old stuff (including printers, scanners and purchased software like "treeware") fails with the "new" windows - with bars on and shutters down! I have old cartridges for my perfectly good printer that I can't use! - What's the sense for anyone to support that sort of system! I suppose it it is like changing from selling lathe tools to changing system so people buy a new lathe every 5 years! - And I'm too old to want this "new world" of change. (I'll be dead before they ban IC engines - I hope!). George Orwell was more right then even he expected. Big Brother rules! - especially with COVID around. (Though I believe in Quarantine for controlling the spread of disease - unlike most who seem to find it doesn't apply the them!).
Nuff said.
K2
Linux has some interesting things that are not available at all with 'msux' but as for things of all types that are simply "written" which includes documents, spreadsheets, presentations, data bases, drawings (up to a point, probably simple, as I have never tried it) and math formulas, Linux will do it, importing or exporting in any known format. The biggest problem with Linux is that it does not directly run your 'msux' programs. But like I said, Linux can RUN 'msux' itself as a program, then from inside 'msux' you can run other programs. There are a lot of differences with Linux which I thimpfk you would like, but it DOES take a bit of learning curve--ultimately, it's FUN! Better card games, chess and some other games like that--your choice to play or even to install them (I haven't beaten the chess game, not once!). I thimpfk what I like best about the OS itself is the fact that I can have 16 desktops!

Don't forget, you always have your choice to boot up in 'msux' if you need a program that does not run in Linux--you can freely switch back and forth simply by shutting down and booting back up. Linux does a far better job at "compartmentalizing" than the other guy--It uses hard drive memory for program information when the program gets too large for internal memory and does a far better job of this than msux. Just for your information, for us old coots, one of the things that keeps us alive . . . (drum roll) . . . is doing new things that have a learning curve!
 
Hi Richard. Thanks for advice. I have now installed the Linux stuff. It all works from a pen drive - so the fan hardly runs to keep the hard drive and processor cool. Much quieter!
I'll carry on learning....
Maybe my printer will work now?
Ken
 
Hi Richard. Thanks for advice. I have now installed the Linux stuff. It all works from a pen drive - so the fan hardly runs to keep the hard drive and processor cool. Much quieter!
I'll carry on learning....
Maybe my printer will work now?
Ken
Whoa! That's good! Can't say if your printer will work, maybe the printer is ded. But goo luck on that. So you have any trouble booting? What version of Linux do you have? Did you notice that you can access msux' drives? You can reach all that. If you have an msux OS, you CANNOT reach the Linux drives! How do you like your desktop? You have many options on that, some COMPLETELY different--not in style, but in substance.
 
16 desktops -- - - - I've got 20 and still don't have enough room.
Trying to have a desktop dedicated to each kind of function.
One major issue - - - - CAD - - - they now call modelling CAD but I need to be able to do something where I can also put all the technical details into the 'drawing' and FreeCAD just doesn't believe in being practical. So far I've been using LibreCAD using mathematics to draw from point to point. FreeCAD works but I don't just model stuff I make it and that mostly doesn't seem to be what the 'coders' are doing.
These problems might just be me but this software seems to be designed to be a pain to use and then there is only ONE way to do most things. (Like specifying things only counter clock-wise IIRC.)
Oh well I'll stop - - - - not really contributing anything useful re: CAD.
Besides CAD where M$ has the market sewn up real tight there isn't much that you can't do in *nix land.
I've been running various iterations for somewhat over 20 years.
HTH
You might wish to look into who the coders are for Linux CADs. I don't know who they are, but I thimpfk they might not know anything about drafting. I have used some of their stuff but it is very inferior. If you could find out who is doing the coding you also might give us a heads-up and we could send them a few $$. It is always a help, as these people who are doing the coding get very little for it. They usually hold day jobs. Also, you and we might try to tell them what we need. The way AutoDesk has developed their AutoCAD is by creating a drawing program 40 years ago and constantly adding to it. They tried to make AutoCAD into a Mechanical Desktop but it was a great failure. I know because I had to teach it and the students and I all knew it was crap in 2001. The other 3D programs started their stuff from the ground up and, frankly, they are far easier to use than 2D CAD. If you can find the coders, I would be glad to send them a few $$ myself--and that is a rarity. I do it because when it comes out it will be Open Source, that is, free. But like taxes, I am willing to pay some just not like msux, AutoDesk and others want. (In economics, it is well known: Drop the price, sell more, make MORE $$)
 
I'll study tomorrow. Now relaxing with the missus.
cheers,
Ken
OK, Ken, vacation's over, time to get back to serious PLAY. I was wondering if you lookt at the 4V rotary steam valve engine on ppgs 35-36 of the "Experimental Flash Steam" book, drawing by Westbury? I'm thimpfking of trying to find more developed drawings for this. Do you know anything about it? How about the rest of the book? I find it ferree eentaeresteenk. (cigarette held German style in the web of two middle fingers. Puff puff.)

OH, PS. How is the Linux?
 
Hi Richard - I have just looked at the label - it says Dell! SO not HP after all. I have a LINUX stick I bought to plug-in to my 2004 Dell, but it was actually just 1 generation too old for the Linux OP system to take over. I do not have any problems with the current 2008 Dell, but would I see some benefit from using the Linux system on that one? - I just don't know what difference I will see to appreciate applying it... Will my McAffee security throw a fit? Ignore it? Or just get on with life and continue to work? - Not knowing - and it currently isn't broken - I have no motivation to change - except your praise for it. Will any of my current files translate and work in Linux? - e.g. my office package (I save as docs etc. so they can translate and send to systems like this website) , or family tree GED files? My biggest bugbear in life is having to change some systems when Miseryshaft change generation and all my old stuff (including printers, scanners and purchased software like "treeware") fails with the "new" windows - with bars on and shutters down! I have old cartridges for my perfectly good printer that I can't use! - What's the sense for anyone to support that sort of system! I suppose it it is like changing from selling lathe tools to changing system so people buy a new lathe every 5 years! - And I'm too old to want this "new world" of change. (I'll be dead before they ban IC engines - I hope!). George Orwell was more right then even he expected. Big Brother rules! - especially with COVID around. (Though I believe in Quarantine for controlling the spread of disease - unlike most who seem to find it doesn't apply the them!).
Nuff said.
K2
My laptop runs Windows 10 pro, but I have a dual boot so that I can boot into
Hi Richard - I have just looked at the label - it says Dell! SO not HP after all. I have a LINUX stick I bought to plug-in to my 2004 Dell, but it was actually just 1 generation too old for the Linux OP system to take over. I do not have any problems with the current 2008 Dell, but would I see some benefit from using the Linux system on that one? - I just don't know what difference I will see to appreciate applying it... Will my McAffee security throw a fit? Ignore it? Or just get on with life and continue to work? - Not knowing - and it currently isn't broken - I have no motivation to change - except your praise for it. Will any of my current files translate and work in Linux? - e.g. my office package (I save as docs etc. so they can translate and send to systems like this website) , or family tree GED files? My biggest bugbear in life is having to change some systems when Miseryshaft change generation and all my old stuff (including printers, scanners and purchased software like "treeware") fails with the "new" windows - with bars on and shutters down! I have old cartridges for my perfectly good printer that I can't use! - What's the sense for anyone to support that sort of system! I suppose it it is like changing from selling lathe tools to changing system so people buy a new lathe every 5 years! - And I'm too old to want this "new world" of change. (I'll be dead before they ban IC engines - I hope!). George Orwell was more right then even he expected. Big Brother rules! - especially with COVID around. (Though I believe in Quarantine for controlling the spread of disease - unlike most who seem to find it doesn't apply the them!).
Nuff said.
K2
my laptop runs Windows 10 pro, but I have a dual boot so I can also boot into Ubuntu (linux) and run open source stuff. Originally this laptop was a chinese HP machine, but all characters and icons were in Chinese, and I couldn’t read anything so there was no way to change languages. Installed the new OS and then the dual boot, so now I really like this custom setup.
 

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