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you think this is big enough for the home model shop? my dad bought it last week from an heavy equipment dealer in town. its capacity is 36.5 in and 84in between centers. and it will go down to 6rpm and has a 25hp motor. it was built in nov1941 and was origanally installed in an allis chalmers factory in springfield, ill. we like to never got it into his shop, damaged both the weather strip above the garge door and the panel beside it(16'x12' door) its weight (about 20,000lbs) overloaded the biggest forklift avalible by about 5000lbs. but because of its size,age and difficulty in moving lathes of this size can be purchased at a more than reasonable price. just wanted to share.
 
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Hammer N Nails: Other than my first thoughts of envy were----that ought to be big enough to make some wobblers on.
Good Luck and happy turning------don
 
LOVE MONARCHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

she looks good for nearly 70 did you get come any of the original accessories like the steadies?

have you got any plans for it like taking on odd jobs?

thanks for showing it looks great Thm:
 
wow that is a hobby lathe.
you should be able to do some serious 1:1 scale parts on that. bet dad is a happy camper.
Tin
 
A 68 year old Monarch lathe is just beginning to break in.
It will be around and in service a lot longer than a new
one bought today.

Nice find for your Dad! Thm:

Rick
 
I'm glad it wasn't me lifting one end to get it in the shop ;D :D ;D

Nice find, enjoy it 8)


How many bloke's does it take to change a chuck ::)

CC
 
I really love my engines but that has cannon barrels written all over it. ::)
 
yeah new guy it did come with a big pile of cobbled-up tooling and such most of it is scrap it came with 3 and 4 jaw chuck tailstock chuck centers and the like but nothing fancy i dont think they did much precision work judging by the crudness of the tooling. as for what hes going to be doing with it i dont really know, were getting ready to start a 1/2 scale farm traction engine and theres a few parts on it that will be too big for the other lathe but besides that i dont know.

rick i told him the same thing when he was thinking about buying it, an old american or european lathe would be just as good or better than a brand new chinese

as for the chuck id estimate its weight at about 300lbs, hes got a pedistal crane of an affair that my father in law scrounged from work back in the other shed that might have to be installed to make changing chucks and large workpieces possible/easier/safer

another thing i forgot to mention is that you can cut threads up to 3/4 thread per inch, i havent ever heard of such a thing.
 
with 3/4 per inch you (or he) could get into the mining industry or deep core oil drilling.
My initial responce to seeing the first pic was something like holly....
That thing is a beast.
-B-
 
Nice find. Once had a 25" swing x 6' center to center. Should be able to do a lot with that one.

Kenny
 
What are the width & height of the cutting tools ? I have a bunch of really large ones that are of no use to me. Some .630" x .630 and some .500" x .500. I'd be happy to give them to you for postage costs if they are of any benefit to you.
 
Glad for you, that is a work of Art, not a lathe, bet Dad is glad not counting you, I can hear it running now and realize the many fun hours in front of it, happy chipping, Lathe Nut
 
The 6 RPM would be good for that 3/4" thread capability.
Those old dog and friction cone and cup clutches don't always
release the first time you drop the lever. You learn to slap them
in and out of engagement with a bit of authority.

The lathes I learned on 30 years back were of that era.
I miss them in the work environment.

Rick





 
Rick they are the best in my book, I found on that a fellow had that come from Port Author, Texas at a ship yard, it did look a little more fancy that the other lathes, had brass shifting levers and the other Items were brass just a great looking machine, I could see in my mind what it could look like polished up, the fellow wanted 3,500 dollars for it, tried to hold out and get him down, dicided to call Monarch to see the story on that lathe, gave here the number and she said it was shipped that for the navy to build tarpedos , she said that they buy them back to make 'CNC machines, stalled to long someone got it, shame on me Lathe Nut
 
That is really cool.

My wife caught me drooling on the keyboard and just had a one word response: "NO!" I think she is being unreasonable just because it would have to go in her parking spot.
 
25 Horsepower? At 220 volts, that would pull about 85 amps if my conversion is correct? Wouldn't be able to run the air conditioner at the same time. :big:

Chuck
 


Hi Chuck
Forget me if i am wrong, And goodness knows i have been wrong before (just ask any of my previous girlfriends) lol. Is that not 28. something per phase therefore 85 Wiggly Amps / 3 = 28. ?

Kind regards

Malcolm
 
You could be right, Malcom. My knowledge of electricity is pretty much limited to DC and single phase AC. So, here's question, does three phase current require (2) extra wires?

Chuck
 
THree phase requires 3 wires + ground. Single phase has 2 wires (L1 & Neutral) + ground, 3-phase has 3 wires (L1, L2 & L3) + ground. Hopefully you don't have to work with corner grounded delta or some other old wiring plan...

Three phase is great for running in forward and reverse. Switch any 2 wires and the motor runs in reverse. Need it to run forward, just switch any 2 wires. Has much better starting torque than single phase, and it is common to got from forward and just "bump" reverse. (Every Bridgeport operator get real good at this...)
 

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