rude people

Ralph....
Told ya that box made your A$$ look big. :

Steve

Ralph is quite right, and in this particular case I was guilty of hijacking Brass Machines ball turner thread.

I had already apologised to Eric for this in a PM 2 days ago, and have since deleted my posts in that particular thread to try and focus the attention back on his build, rather than mine. However, in mitigation, I though it might be relevant information in response to a link posted just before mine, so it wasn't really an intentional willy-waving self-glorification post.

I think this is where the problem lies, in deciding whether the additional information posted could prove useful to the OPs subject matter or not.
With hindsight, more use of the PM system would perhaps have been appropriate in this case, and perhaps for some others.

Peter

Peter Neill said:

Ralph is quite right, and in this particular case I was guilty of hijacking Brass Machines ball turner thread.

I had already apologised to Eric for this in a PM 2 days ago, and have since deleted my posts in that particular thread to try and focus the attention back on his build, rather than mine. However, in mitigation, I though it might be relevant information in response to a link posted just before mine, so it wasn't really an intentional willy-waving self-glorification post.

I think this is where the problem lies, in deciding whether the additional information posted could prove useful to the OPs subject matter or not.
With hindsight, more use of the PM system would perhaps have been appropriate in this case, and perhaps for some others.

Peter

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It's a fine line, but for posterity (or even just the lurkers), I think it's better to not-have useful info hidden away in PMs. I know being a moderator is already a heap of work as I'm one on other forums, but perhaps they could get more militant about splitting off errant posts into other threads while we, the users, promise not to complain too much about it. That can also be tricky to manage since sometimes half a post is relevant and the other half isn't..

So, using the ball-turner example, you'd have the 'Mother of All Ball-Turner' (MOAB) threads where general ball-turner posts and 'here's one picture of the one I made' go, then other threads, linked from the main one on "My Ball Turner build" "Brian's Ball Turner (now with CAD!)" "Fred's Oblate Spheriod Machine', wherin posts specific to those projects themselves would go.

Thoughts? Worth it?

Steve,

We can always rely on you to find all the truly relevant information from any post :


Peter,

I've sent you a little explainatory PM (sorry Shred).... There was no intent to cause offense or point fingers in your direction, I was trying to help people see the different ways of posting so as not to cause offence to the builder of the main topic. Anyway, I hope the PM is clear?



Shred,

I am still of the opinion that the issue lies in the presentation of the posts and the way they can be read/misread.

I understand your thoughts on making all relevant subjects sit together... But I think it a mammoth task for a site of this size?

I think it would be a good thing to be able to request an errant post be moved? That way the topic owner (starter) if unhappy could ask for action to be taken.... I suspect that this option is already out there though?


All Just IMHO.


I'm sure others will have plenty to say on this subject?


I'm quite happy to carry on as is... just wanted to try to get people thinking about the others they interact with



Ralph.

me im pretty happy here i think you blokes are a great bunch.
i just love reading and learning from all of you.
i have been to some forums that are truly rude but i dont really see that here.

A couple of observations from my perspective...

1) It bears mentioning that the problem is not always giving offense, but also taking it. As rich and wonderful a medium of communication as the internet is, it is still very easy to misinterpret someone's intent. We should not automatically assume that something we take as offensive was intended that way. A generous measure of leeway is called for.

2) To the moderators: Whatever you are doing, KEEP IT UP. Not only is this a well-behaved forum, it's one of the only ACTIVE model engineering forums I know of. Others go days, or even weeks without a single post!

Paula

Ralph, no problem at all, no offense was taken.
Replied to the PM and basically agreed that the gentle nudge regarding OP's post was correct, and perhaps a good reminder for us all.
Regards

Peter

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Shred,

I am still of the opinion that the issue lies in the presentation of the posts and the way they can be read/misread.

I understand your thoughts on making all relevant subjects sit together... But I think it a mammoth task for a site of this size?

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Well, there's both offense and off-topic, but it's pretty easy to do with the forum software I've used-- select the off-topic or otherwise to-be-moved posts, and hit 'move to new topic' in the moderator menu. Think up a catchy title for the new thread like "General Cube-Turning Posts (split from Joe's Garden Weasel thread)" and hit 'go'. If there's already an appropriate thread, there's a 'merge with existing thread' option.

Paula said:

A couple of observations from my perspective...

2) To the moderators: Whatever you are doing, KEEP IT UP. Not only is this a well-behaved forum, it's one of the only ACTIVE model engineering forums I know of. Others go days, or even weeks without a single post!

Paula

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I totally agree !! Since I joined over a year ago, I've seen a marked increase in the number of members and in the number of daily posts !!

Kudos to the site owners/mods for keeping this place fairly civil and growing ! You're doing something right :bow:

Mike

Well even if its a Miss understanding of how the thread reads or how it is interpted there is and should be no reason for anyone to be rude.
A good example is the ball making thread they are digs about it being over done. Why, stop right now and ask why its one of many threads if the ball thing piss's you off don't follow the thread if no one follows it or responses to it what happens it dies. I am 47 years old and I understand you can never make everyone happy but again think about how you would feel if something you post for the good of it and someone rips it apart you would not feel that good well think how the next guy feels. So my last word on the subject if you don't have anything good to say then don't say anything.

Artrans,

One of things that may have been missed... In MY ballturner build thread you stuck a link of a turner that to quote you:

this is one of the nicest I have ever seen look at this one

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What does that have to do with my build? It's kinda like you talking about something you are doing and for me to point one out that, IMHO is better than yours. For instance, "that transmission shop down the road from you is the best I have ever seen, have you seen it?"

To quote you again:

think about how you would feel if something you post for the good of it and someone rips it apart you would not feel that good

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That is what you did in my post.

End of topic

Eric

rleete said:

You melt them down to cast flywheels!

Okay, you're not the only one with strange sense of humor.

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He He, grin, made my day. Thanks, now I know all about flywheels.
gary

I get your point brass But I did not mean for that to be taken like that and i am sorry. I was answering the thread which was another ball turner so i was showing another ball turner and not to take away from yours but true thats a great example of a misunderstnding, again I would never try and rain on anyones work again i am sorry and can see how things can be taken out of context like your showing here. I stand corrected and will shout up on the subject. ps I had the same thing happen to me I drew a governor in cadstd which I was trilled with when reetl says look at this and shows work he did in solid works in about 2 min I toke it heart and he said sorry he did not mean to say mine was not as good which it was not any but he was just showing a example i guess its a duff call at times

Hi Folks
Hopefully everyone concerned with these misunderstandings have come to an understanding now, It certainly seems that way :bow:

Perhaps all concerned could all agree to draw a line under it at this point and close the book on this one.
We all have misunderstandings and different views, i think everyone has a bad day (I'm giving up smoking just now so my girlfriend has first hand experience).
I know behind the scenes the moderators will have been having their calming influence and sage advice heard for which we all thank them even when it is unseen to most of us. :bow: :bow: :bow:
Lets get back to the happy band of kindhearted banter we are so used to.
All said with respect.

Kind regards

Malcolm

In closing ....

I thought the Rue D' Remarks was a street in Paris! ;D

I just love everybody! ;D