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I read the advert for the above on the way home in the train yesterday

Any comments please?

Yes, I have got what appear to be possible tool holders.


Cheers

N

Should be 'Turning' but apologies for my poor eye
 
Thank you Brian. I was also thinking similar thoughts.
However, I do recall a curvilliniar device from Ornamental Turning and also that I have used( as all old blokes have done) with a hand held chisel . Again, Most ball turning devices are 'hand driven' whilst most of the old brigade pivot lathe tools on fingers whilst grinding. So perhaps experiences with this bit of Eccentricity, please?

Regards\
N
 
It looks to me like a great way to injure your fingers[/MEDIA]

Observation and understanding of the geometry of the tool holder and it's interaction with the base plate would disabuse you of this erroneous conclusion.
Not understanding something doesn't make it dangerous!
 
After a bit more reading up I do like the idea and can see it been useful at least to me as I want to make a model or two of the original Stirling engines stored At Glasgow and Edinburgh .This would involve a few form tools to replicate the wood turned legs
Just canna find a price although maybe a project coming on
 
Frazer,
Actually it isn't new as far the physics is concerned. I have , as most old geysers have, a graver made from a bit of square hss steel. It becomes a diamond shape beloved by - well, eccentric people. Which is where I came in =LOL!

If I could see properly, I have Model Engineer curvilinear construction which would do the 'Bessie Braddock' legs which you may recall- or those on your Stirling engines of Auld Reekie and Glesgeh.

Incidentally, I used to 'do' Northumbrian small bagpipes and at some bit of almost forgotten past I worked on a Boxford with 'a bit of round bar' held in the 4 position tool post. The way to make funny shapes?

True, the Eccentric one is sophisticated = and the sliding could come from a top slide which -- laughingly- come from removing a top slide when using this Turnado thing.

As soon as things quieten down, I'm half blind, deaf, COPD'd and being filled with B-12 and Formic or did he say Folic acid, I'll unearth the article.

Kindest regards

Pins and needles
 
Hi Norm,
Its the copy bits n bobs that interest me as its easy to turn one but a beggar to get em all the same
It still use gravers I made as an apprentice and a wee bit of bell and pendulum work when Im skint
The engine Im most interested in is in Glasgi as are some drawings for a wee puffer Im going to build as despite the myth they are not flat bottomed
Guess thats what you get from been dragged up on the tales of Para Handy and his motley crew and I would like to see the Kelpies at Falkirk.
Well oneday
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...re-high-tribute-countrys-industrial-past.html
 
I've been to see the Kelpies on the road to Falkirk.
My mind has wandered to the early 1950's and the two Tyne Improvement Commission's steam boats called Patrol- used by the River Tyne Police and the Pioneer used by the Port Health.
There seems to be no record of either of them now.

Regarding the Para Handy tales and puffer boats, probably Don Ashton of Stephenson's and Walshaerts Gears might be helpful.


I think that I have a heap of things in old Model Engineers and will try to go through them for you.

Oddly, I'm dining with one of the C.A.Parson's old staff tonight and he and a mate of his from Kilbarchan next Thursday.

Whether we will have time to 'yak' is questionable as we have to get in our aprons, collars and evening suits.

Back to bed

N
 
Stirling Engine--- NASA. and R.J. Bourne?

I'm picking up too much stuff. Does the above mean anything?

Frazer-- PM Please?

N
 

No, not at all, is everything you don't understand implicitly dangerous? Some monumental Arris once insisted that a tool rack behind a lathe or mill was unsafe, exactly the kind of moron who doesn't understand that spindles should be stationary before anything other than cutting work goes on anywhere nearby :D

There are people who will sneak up on a Bison or a Grizzly to get a better photo, that makes them really, really stupid people, it doesn't make the animal inherently dangerous, unless you combine it with really, really stupid people, and quite frankly the resulting fracas is probably in the best interest of society as a whole ;-)
 
it doesn't make the animal inherently dangerous
But surely, Grizzly bears are inherently dangerous animals - plenty of people have become Grizzly food or simply Grizzly victims without going out of their way to antagonise them. In the same way, Great White sharks are inherently dangerous - you'd be beyond foolish to get in the water with one to take a picture but your inherently foolish act is not the reason they are dangerous.
 
The news broke this morning in Montana- wherever that is, about a 28 year old lady researcher who was researching the aggressive habits of the Grizzlee bear- what ever that is.

She used a spray-- and it didn't seem to work.

As for Bisons, we poor Brits have them. We call them 'Wash Bisons'

We have Wild Cattle- I jest not. However a kick from a quite domestic female moo cow is almost as nasty. They kick forward rather than a horse which kicks back. The Chillingham herd of wild cattle lives convenient near-- hold your horses- Hulne Park where it is close to Brizzlee Tower. We've also got adders- nasty snakes which never could multiply until they got log tables.

Now could we get back to the topic because I was a member of a Goldstar RAF Squadron who has Tornados. I was offered a quarter scale one which was hoisted up with a helicopter and dropped to test the instruments--- but like everyone else---I digress.

Happy Holidays

Norm
 
Hi,
I read the advert for the above on the way home in the train yesterday

Any comments please?

Yes, I have got what appear to be possible tool holders.


Cheers

N

Should be 'Turning' but apologies for my poor eye


Hi,

As an apprentice watch and clock repairer I learned to turn metal with various types of gravers using 'T' rests of different designs, it was only after finishing my apprenticeship and going on to repairing larger clocks; Turret clocks and their like that I used a lathe with a fixed tool. I was quite impressed with the video of this tool in action especially cutting steel and cast iron. I still do quite a lot of hand turning and have several tool rests that fit either on the bed or cross slide of my Myford S7B. The down side of turning on a lathe with a cross slide is that it gets in the way even on a long bed lathe like I have; especially turning between centres. This new system is certainly no more dangerous and possibly less so than conventional hand turning; I would certainly like to have a go with it. I must check the price and see if my pension will run to it. Attached a photograph of a model cannon barrel I finished turning by hand.

Regards Tony.

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Thanks Tony. My experiences, although less than yours, agree.
As you also comment, it all depends on the price and whether one can buy plans, or plans and a kit or one is obliged to buy a made up article. On the latter, I have both a couple of Myfords and a Sieg and clear his throat, a Unimat3/4 clone.

What became quickly apparent was the desirability of the use of collets rather than 3 or 4 self centering chucks. I've sets of Myford and ER25 and 16 ones. The 8mm ones can be discounted :)

N

I had a senior moment and obviously the continuous flat bed of the ML10-- hoh hum!
 
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But surely, Grizzly bears are inherently dangerous animals.

Thankfully only to culpably ignorant people who don't bother to apprise themselves of the risks despite widely and freely available information.
In short, if you don't know the risk and you are too stupid to research them you are not going to survive and are doing your species a favour, it's not about not knowing, it's about being too stupid to even bother looking.
 
Thankfully only to culpably ignorant people who don't bother to apprise themselves of the risks despite widely and freely available information.
In short, if you don't know the risk and you are too stupid to research them you are not going to survive and are doing your species a favour, it's not about not knowing, it's about being too stupid to even bother looking.

This still fits the definition of 'inherent' (existing as a natural and permanent quality of something). You must exercise caution in their environment because they are inherently dangerous. Our lathes and many other tools are inherently dangerous and need to be treated in such a fashion. Suggesting Grizzlies/sharks/lathes/mills/etc. are only dangerous when encountered by 'stupid' people is, in my mind, quite wrong.
 
Perhaps it would be courteous for those who want a platform on the pros and cons of safety and danger to open their own topic.

I was simply trying to mention the new development of an old idea and entitled Turnado.

No more- no less
 
The tools from Eccentric Engineering have a lot of time invested to work out the kinks and the plans are incredibly good value for the money so I for one are awaiting their release.
Here's a couple of old articles from 'Geomater' which I have found handy. Once made it sits unused for ages but some jobs would have been impossible on a manual lathe without it.
 

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Perhaps it would be courteous for those who want a platform on the pros and cons of safety and danger to open their own topic.

I was simply trying to mention the new development of an old idea and entitled Turnado.

No more- no less

It's a conversation Norm, they do tend to stray sometimes. And I think we might have a case here of "glass houses" and "pots and kettles" ey?
 

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