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Old 02-08-2012, 03:01 AM   #1
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Where can you find a free blue print program that works. Want to draw prints for items I would like to make.
What do you use for your drawings/ plans ?
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:46 AM   #2
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draftsight http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=11004.0
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:23 PM   #3
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Thank you very much gbritnell... I will have to try this tonight !!
Thanx again for the link and thread...Dave

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Old 02-08-2012, 08:53 PM   #4
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Autodesk is also offering 123D for free.

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Old 02-09-2012, 12:20 AM   #5
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Well...I downloaded the program. Moved a circle around. I'm old school and having a hard time with it. I guess I'll have to read A LOT MORE to figure this out for any usefullnees for me !! Just figured it wouldn't be this difficult to draw a print. Can't figure it out..oh well...back to the pencil for now. I have NO experience at all with this sort of thing. I am new to all of this machining as well. I want to make some static models before getting into moving models. With that being said..the static would become a moving one later if I could have my own plans and drawings. Maybe a little self schooling in order !!

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I do tooling drawings with plain old Microsoft Excel.

It's already on every computer I own and the drawing tools that are built into
it are simple enough for even me to use.

The attached file is one I made just a day ago.

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Hello Dave,

I have been using Solid Edge 2D drafting for 2 years. I find it very easy to use, and it has all the capabilities required to make professional quality drawings, and easy enough to create a quick doodle in the shop.

You can download it for free, 100% unlocked from their website. http://www.plm.automation.siemens.com/en_us/products/velocity/solidedge/free2d/

They do require you to give them some information, nothing crazy, just your name and stuff. Every year you must renew your license, this is a very easy process.

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V45,

Like you I could not get my head around this CAD business, until..................................I bought this small book "CAD for Model Engineers," by DAG Brown. ISBN 1-85486-189-1. Probably available from My Hobby Store, an English website.

Suddenly all this layers and grid stuff started to make sense. It was amongst the best $20 I ever spent.

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CAD is interesting. The OP had troubles with it, and so did I.

A few years ago, I was making a desk top CNC mill. The project was complex enough so that CAD was almost essential. So I forced myself to learn to use QuickCAD. The learning curve was steep. It didn't seem friendly at all, but after enough pounding away, the light bulb came on, and then I learned just how powerful CAD can be, even 2D. For example, I needed to make a part I called a "nut carrier" that connects a ball screw nut to a table. I imported the DXF file of the nut, and the nut appeared on my workspace like magic. I then drew the nut carrier around it, using the powerful "snap" tools and such, and AFTER it's drawn, you then get the dimensions, like a 23.22mm hole, bolts spaced by 12.55mm, etc.

The CAD allows one to arrange components for fit, and to check for interference between parts. When you print the file and machine to print, everything comes together perfectly.

QuickCAD was too weak to do what I wanted later, so I had to learn Rhino3d. It was no fun at all to transition, so all I can suggest is to start with the CAD/CAM package that you think will do it all for you forever; get good at it. It pays BIG dividends in design.

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Ah yes, the never ending CAD debate.

Years back I started using a product called KeyCAD. It worked fine for the drawings I did, and it was a reasonably priced tool for the hobbyist. Time went by, and it was time to upgrade my CAD software, but KeyCAD was no longer available.

We had TurboCAD on a computer at work, and I had many opportunities to learn and use it. It was ok, but didn't really appeal to me for some reason, so I kept looking.

A friend was using QuickCAD from AutoDesk, and let me try it out on his computer. I could see that there was going to be a bit of a learning curve, but it was far more robust than KeyCAD or TurboCAD and was reasonably priced as well. Being from AutoDesk, I figured that the product would be around for some time, so I purchased it for $60 or so at that time (2000) and have been very happy with it. Naturally, newer versions of QuickCAD are not available either! I did find that AutoDesk does offer a product called AutoSketch, which appears to be QuickCAD with a different name. It is a little more expensive, with a current price tag of $200 from Amazon, but I believe I may just bite the bullet on it. Not having to learn a new tool again and not having to try and convert existing drawings would be well worth the cash outlay.

Still, I decided to try a few more of the free tools, such as Google Sketchup, which is easy to use, but lacks the capabilities of the tools that I am used to. It just is not a robust precision drafting program.

eMachineShop was tried, and it actually worked rather well, it produces great drawings and 3D renderings, but it does not allow the user to add any dimensions to the drawing. Works fine to send to the software producer to have them machine a part for you but is worthless for producing a drawing that I can use in my shop. Granted, the producer intended the tool to be used by their customers for submitting jobs for hire, not as a free CAD program for guys like us to use strictly as a CAD program.

I tried DraftSight but for some reason it is not compatible with the graphics card on my laptop. I can draw one item, such as a rectangle, but as soon as I click to draw a second item, it crashes the display and then closes DraftSight. Ixnay on that one.

I am not into the 3D stuff, and 2D is all I really need for my projects, so I don't know that I am ready to give AutoDesk 123D a whirl just yet. I suppose I should try it before passing judgement, but I suspect I will end up purchasing AutoSketch, despite the dinero I'll have to spend.



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