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Old 05-22-2013, 09:08 PM   #21
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Default Common sense and co-operation.

Another common injury is hitting your hand when using a hammer and chisel , O.K its only a bruise and broken skin but it can hurt like hell , wear gloves.

I would add, that you will find that hitting your hand with a hammer over the years will manifest itself in arthritis in later life!

Also if you need to work with someone on a particular job, it is very important to make the other person aware of what move you are going to make next - I lost one third of my left thumb through not being aware!

Now, this will very difficult to do or discuss, but if you consider someone to be mechanically inept, then don't let them within a country mile of your machinery and don't ask for their help, ie if you think they don't understand at least the basic principles. -
This is for their safety, your safety, and for the sake of the machinery!

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As a home machinist the rules we follow are up to us they are not likely posted and not even written on paper. They are in our mind or heart . There are no stupid rules because it is your shop and do things your way. But we need to work safe if we are always getting hurt the hobby is no longer fun. so here is a written set of rules to follow or use as a guide . Again it is your shop you work in so pick what works for you but above all work safely.

Machine Shop Safety

• Safety Glasses
Even when you're not working on a machine, you must wear safety glasses Even hand tools can make chips.
• Wear Hearing Protection as required (If you have to raise your voice to speak to someone 3 ft away hearing protection should be worn).
• Clothes and Hair
• Check your clothes and hair before you walk into the shop.
If your hair is caught in spinning machinery, it will be pulled out if you're lucky. If you're unlucky, you will be pulled into the machine.
Roll up sleeves. Neckties, scarves, loose sleeves, etc. are prohibited
No open toed sandals. Wear shoes that give a sure footing. If you are working with heavy objects, steel toes are recommended.
• Safe Conduct in the Shop
Be aware of what's going on around you. Pets and family members may move things or enter the shop at any time.
• Keep Machinery Area Clear. Do not put unneeded items on or around machines.
• Keep Walkways Clear. Remove tripping hazards, and clean spills up immediately.
• Concentrate on what you're doing.
• Don't hurry. If you catch yourself rushing, slow down.
• Don't rush speeds and feeds. You'll end up damaging your part, the tools, and maybe the machine or yourself
• Listen to the machine. If something doesn't sound right, turn the machine off.
• Don't attempt to measure a part that's moving.
• Don't let someone else talk you into doing something dangerous.
• If someone speaks to you while you’re running a machine, keep your eyes on your machine and not on the person.
• If you get tired or are feeling ill, turn machine off, take a break.
• Machining
• Read the Manual
• Study the machine. Know which parts move, which are stationary, and which are sharp.
• Double check that your work piece and tool are securely held.
• Remove chuck keys and wrenches.
• Use no rags on machinery while it is in operation and/or in use.
• Do not place any tools or other metal objects on machine ways.
• Do not clear chips from machines with bare hands. Use pliers or a chip brush.

A dirty machine is unsafe and uncomfortable to work on. Do NOT use compressed air to blow machines clean! This endangers people's eyes and can force dirt into machine bearings.
• When working alone keep a clear path to the telephone and have it as close at hand as practical and safe.
• Do Not operate Machinery after or while consuming Alcoholic beverages.
• Cease hot operations 30 minutes prior leaving the shop area unattended. ie welding, brazing, heavy grinding, smoking etc.
• Store flammables in a safe place
• Keep a fire extinguisher handy inspect regularly.
• Chemical safety
• Keep all solvents cutting oils and other chemicals in proper storage containers.
• keep all chemicals in clearly marked containers.
• Keep food and chemicals separated.
• Do not use food ovens for chemicals or chemical ovens for food.
( If you use an old oven from the kitchen for chemicals it is now a chemical oven!
• Wash hands before eating drinking smoking or using the bathroom (and after).
• Grinders :Wear double eye protection.
Keep all guards in place
Keep tool rest adjusted 1/8 " from wheel
DO NOT grind aluminum or brass
DO NOT Grind on side of wheel.
Do not stand in line with spinning wheel
Wear a dust respirator Metal and Wheel dust can be harmful if inhaled.
First aid Kit:
Have one
Mark its location
Inspect /restock regularly

• Place machines and lighting on separate circuits if possible
if a machine trips a breaker you will not be left in the dark.
• It is your shop you are responsible for your safety.

How about a couple more.

Wear sturdy, long pants in the shop(jeans, work pants). No holes, no blown out knees. Save the fashion statements for somewhere else. You won't won't like hot chips or sparks burning your legs.

If you've got long hair, keep it ALL under your hat.



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Old 06-22-2013, 04:38 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Tin Falcon View Post
Thanks you are right that has been added to the safety rule list as well.
here is the added section:


Hi Tin Falcon,
I agree with you and safety rules were made to protect us.It is for our personal safety.

Having had minor hand/finger injuries,made me more careful.I am not about to incur more accidents.I have seen bad accidents.

One more rule to think about. "No strangers,neighbours,relatives and friends can work on your machine tools. If an urgent job needs to be done,best we machine that piece. I have seen my junior in the plant trying to operate the Leblonde Lathe. I stopped him as he had no training in turning.Put in writing too that he is not allowed to operate any machine tools copied the H.R.Dept.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:18 AM   #24
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If I observed every single one of these must-do rules every time I stepped into the workshop I would never produce a single chip.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:57 AM   #25
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Very true, Harry. I'm not saying workshop safety isn't critical, but there's no substitute for common sense.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:41 AM   #26
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Hi Harry,

I am with you. Make our own rules. Do nothing stupid.Take time to machine our job pieces.
After incurring minor hand injuries 30 years ago,I have become "work safety smart".Dislocated left thumb hurt like the "Dickens". Went to Emergency Ward and was requested to write accident report,told the Rookie Police to go away.If he wants a report,he best hear my dictation and write for me.His boss, the Sargent came along and help write the report of which I expressed my sincere thanks.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:08 AM   #27
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One thing that I can't recall seeing mentioned, NEVER use your finger to polish out a bore with wet and dry paper or emery while your lathe is going. Can twist your finger off in no time, I have an assortment of wood doweling with a saw cut in one end that I wrap the emery around and use to polish bores.

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A while back (maybe 12 months ago) was a post that had a image of someone on the board's shop rules that where really funny.

I tried searching for it but with no luck.

Does anyone remember where it is ?

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Originally Posted by wildun View Post

Also if you need to work with someone on a particular job, it is very important to make the other person aware of what move you are going to make next - I lost one third of my left thumb through not being aware!
Sounds like the story the old man always told us kids about a scar on his forehead. Reckoned he was changing Caterpillar track pins, holding the drift in place with his hands while another bloke swung the hammer. He was having trouble getting the drift into the right position, so told the hammerman: "When I nod my head, you hit it." So he did. Sounds like one of his likely stories to me.

As far as safety in the shed goes, I guess I am not one to crow. It is frequently 100 degrees or so F in there, so shorts and thongs (flip-flops to you Yanks) are standard tropical safety wear. When I go to the recycle yard at the local rubbish dump, full of bits of jagged metal, broken glass, nails etc etc, there is a sign at the gate saying: "Suitable Footwear Must Be Worn. Minimum Standard: Thongs. I kid you not. Must get a pic next time I am there.

Safety glasses all the time? I think not. When using power tools, lathe, or chiseling, yes. But just didling about with spanners and stuff, no more likely to suffer eye injury than walking down the street or cooking in the kitchen.

One more "rule" I haven't spotted would be:
Never bang two hammers together, face to face, or face to ballpein or whatever.
Reason is hardened steel splinters can fly off into your hand or eyes.
I have seen this one discussed on a motorbike forum and amazing how many people say, "oh I've done it dozens of times with no problem, it must an urban myth".

No it's not. There is a reason that when toolmakers make a tool such a a cold chisel, it is hardened and tempered at the cutting end and left soft at the striking end. So hardened shards don't break off and spear your hand.

Which brings up another rule:
When the striking end of a chisel gets mushroomed, grind the mushroom off and dress down the end..
This will stop work-hardened fragments spearing off into your hand or eyes.

Of course, chiseling, like scraping, is becoming a lost art so not many people will ever mushroom the end of a chisel. We used to cut keyways in 12-inch shafts with them when I were a spotty faced boy.

And remember, the screwdriver is the most dangerous tool in the shop, causes the vast majority of injuries. And the drill press is the most dangerous machine, causing the most injuries. Use a vice, clamps, bolts, stops, whatever it takes to stop work spinning if bit digs in. And keep your hair away from the spinning chuck. I saw one long-haired apprentice end up half bald in about three nanoseconds.
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My one serious injury at my home shop was because I broke the rules. Lots of them.

I was working at a height greater than 1.3 meters without a safety harness.
I was working off of ladders that were not secured.
I was climbing a ladder and trying to carry something up the ladder with me.
I was offered help and refused it.

All of these rules I followed for years at work but I didn't follow them at home and I fell, I was injured and it was 12 weeks before I returned to work. A week in the hospital and another two in rehab and 6 weeks in a wheelchair.

The rules are important.

Here at work we have 12 Lifesaving rules.
1. Work with a valid work permit.
2. Conduct gas tests when required.
3. Verify isolation before work begins.
4. Obtain authorization before entering a confined space.
5. Obtain authorization before overriding or disabling safety equipment.
6. Protect yourself against a fall when working at height. (1.3 meters)
7. Do not walk under a suspended load.
8. Do not smoke outside designated areas.
9. No alcohol or drugs while working or driving.
10. While driving do not use your cell phone and do not speed.
11. Wear your seat belt.
12. Follow the Journey Management Plan.

I work in an office and many of these rules do not apply to me right now, but in my shop many of them do apply.

Stay safe everyone. "G"


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