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09-28-2011, 03:55 PM   #1
Dan Rowe

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Steam valve Diagrams

I think the three most common steam valve diagrams were Zeuner, Reuleaux, and Bilgram in that order. I will show how to construct each one.

The grandaddy of all of these is of course Zeuner so lets start there. I have a copy of Treatise on Valve-Gears by Dr. Gustav Zeuner but it is mostly Greek in the form of algebraic notation. It is well beyond my comfort level with mathematics.

I did find a drawing of the machine made at the University of Pennsylvinia used as a drafting instrument to construct Zeuner Diagrams. It was made to the same dimensions listed in Zeuner's book. It is very clever. It is a cut away engine much like a valve gear trainer but a drafting board is mounted on a spindle near the valve. Thie board is made to rotate at engine speed and a pencil is attached to the center of the valve. The curves generated on the board is what Zeuner used complex math on to replicate with his diagram. Now really how cool is that?

The next post I will use one of my favorite authors William Ripper to loft a Zeuner Diagram for a two cylinder launch found in Machine Drawing and Design.

Dan

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09-28-2011, 04:49 PM   #2
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

Looking forward to the lessons

yours

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09-29-2011, 02:56 PM   #3
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

Peter, Thanks for the interest. I used the book as it was intended as a drawing exercise. I often draw the diagrams in valve gear books in my study of the old graphical methods. To see a two cylinder 7"x7" launch engine found in the same book: http://www.gouldstudios.com/me_SteamLaunch.html

Here is the valve and the set of start assumptions for a Zeuner diagram found in Ripper's book.

Here is the procedure I used to draw the Zeuner Daigram for the valve.

Here is the full diagram with the exhaust port width and more modern terms than Ripper used. I also indicated both TDC and BDC as I usually draw these vertically because I think pistons go up and down.

Finally here is a screen shot of the valve entered in Dockstader's Zeuner module. Notice it is a mirror image because the rotation is the other way.

I just noticed that the last diagram from my original drawing has 3/8" lead not 1/4" as Ripper stated. I got it wrong on my first try but it shows the effect of changing the lead. It is much quicker with the computer program to see the changes.

Valve diagrams really can be used for two uses. One is to solve a valve gear problem the other is to compare one valve design with another at a glance. It is the second use that I use Zeuner for because a lot of text books use a Zeuner Diagram to illustrate the authors points.

Dan

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09-29-2011, 08:49 PM   #4
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

Dan,

Thank you I am looking forward to the other ones.

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09-30-2011, 04:17 PM   #5
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

The next one up is the Reuleaux Diagram. I have not made many of these but I have always thought it is a very interesting method.

Franz Reuleaux is considered the father of kinematics and invented a lot of very interesting stuff including the Reuleaux triangle which was used in the Wankel engine. Can some classically educated person tell me how to pronounce the mans name? I always feel like a hillbilly when I attempt saying it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Reuleaux

I will use the same valve as before and use the method found in The Constructor by Franz Reuleaux. This method needs the length of the connecting rod so I will use the rod length found in Ripper's book.

Dan

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09-30-2011, 08:30 PM   #6
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

I am going to hazard a guess that it is something like "Ray-loo", but don't quote me on that.

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09-30-2011, 09:54 PM   #7
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

"ruh-Low"

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09-30-2011, 11:31 PM   #8
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

Boy,am I dumb!!!!!

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10-01-2011, 12:02 AM   #9
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

Interestingly, Reuleaux was German, not French. My French is far from good but, like Kvom, I would pronounce it Roo-low.

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10-02-2011, 08:43 PM   #10
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Re: Steam valve Diagrams

Thanks for the help on the way to say Reuleaux, I was not even close as I knew that he was German and that made me think the x was not silent.

I will get back to the diagram in The Constructor it is a more complex version that uses the connecting rod length.

This is the simple version. I took a look at Model Engineers Handbook by Tubal Cain and I modified that diagram to match the rotation shown with the Zeuner diagram.

The hard bit for me to figure was the angle of advance if it was not given in a drawing set. Well thanks to this thread I have finally worked that out in my head. The angle of advance is the angle the the eccentric is ahead of the crank plus 900.

Looking at the Zeuner diagram it can be seen that the sine of the angle of advance is the opposite divided by the hypotenuse or the
(lap + lead)/(1/2 valve travel) = sine of the angle of advance.

This was the part I was hanging up on but it is the calculation required with the start information we have for all the diagrams.

Now you will notice that the simple Reuleaux diagram is exactly the same as a Zeuner diagram it is just a quicker way to draw it.

I imported the Dockstader Zeuner diagram into my cad program. Then I made a red mirror image the Reuleaux diagram in the last post and centered it on the image.

Now it should be clear how the graphics work in Dockstader Zeuner module. I still have to explain some of the output numbers and the port width line.

Dan

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